Cybertruck suspension & underbody closeup pics (from broken down prototype spotted roadside)

[Setok]

You already see that where Tesla insurance is allowed to use driver metrics to set rates. You get better rates the more you use FSD.

No Tesla insurance for me then. Don’t want some corporate entity monitoring every minute of my driving.

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[charliemagpie]

That's my point. Driving won't be made illegal, people will simply stop doing it.

Try to make something illegal and people will do it just out of spite lol

I agree with you 100%

Driving will not be 100% illegal. However, I envisage a time when drivers will hinder safety and the efficiency FSD brings to roads.

Over a period of 10 years we have millions of road deaths, and millions of injuries. A burden on the public health system, and tragedy for families.

Smoking was originally marginalized, and then banned in certain circumstances. It was because smoke effects the health of others . But people can still smoke.

It was not the rights of the smoker who won out.

How that plays out remains to be seen. But if drivers continue to be a main cause of tragedy, I don't see the rest of the world sitting back.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Charlie said "I am of the opinion one day driving will be illegal" and then you said Charlie "is making good points". I was refuting this particular opinion, which you evidently agreed with.

Charlie also tried to suggest that using "horse as travel" was now extinct, but it most certainly not illegal in Texas, or Amish country in Pennsylvania, or rural areas with farms and ranches. Thus, it does not make a compelling argument for his prediction about the future of human drivers.

If I say @charliemagpie is making hood points it doesn’t necessarily apply to everything he says in the thread. I saw one of his responses and it was quite reasonable. I saw one of your responses and it was quite reasonable. I would love to be able to say that if you ever made a point I disagreed with that none of your points going forth would have any credence but it just isn’t true. I agree with you some of the time and not at others. Such is humanity.

It may well happen, at some time in the future, that people have to get permission to drive, but I think that is science fiction.

Likewise, and as I mentioned in one response, I live in an area with lots of horses but they do not walk ‘on’ the highway. On dirt roads yes. Even for their owners the horses are not a way to/from work or to the store (at least here). Yes, in an area where technology is against the way of life I would not expect to see any cars, phones, computers, electric or gas appliances or tools, electricity, etc., because the use of any of those would label the users as hypocrites. I fail to see how that has any bearing on Cybertrucks since the Amish will not be using them.

Once again, no one is forcing anyone to purchase or use FSD or other ADAS features, cruise control, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, power steering, power assisted brakes, automatic windows, electric cars, or even cars. You draw your line where you want to for whatever reason you choose and as long as you accept my choice to do the same we are cool.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

No Tesla insurance for me then. Don’t want some corporate entity monitoring every minute of my driving.

They cannot use real-time data to set rates in California and, given how poorly their Safety Score algorithm works, I am glad.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

equine in Texas have identical rights and obligations on the road (other than interstates)

just a 'ha' aside

in any event, I'm a mule man, myself

I cannot believe I said that, but clearly I did. What I meant to say is that horses here walk on the side of the road presumably to protect horse and rider from crazy humans and cement/asphalt. I believe that they are entitled to use the road if they do choose.

 

[CyberGus]

I fail to see how that has any bearing on Cybertrucks since the Amish will not be using them.

 

[PilotPete]

Over a period of 10 years we have millions of road deaths, and millions of injuries. A burden on the public health system, and tragedy for families.

Look for ADAS features to be mandatory on future cars. A new AAA Traffic Safety report says ADAS could save thousands of lives. It says in part;
“ New research by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety estimates that available ADAS technologies could prevent approximately 37 million crashes, 14 million injuries, and nearly 250,000 deaths over the next 30 years. This would represent 16% of crashes and injuries and 22% of deaths that would otherwise occur on U.S. roads without these technologies.”

Just like seatbelts, it’s going to be mandatory. FSD will follow, and your insurance rates will reflect it. Right now, the FAA has mandates on the minimums to fly certain aircraft. However, they don’t mean much as the insurance companies minimums are WAY higher. The insurance runs the planes, not the regulator.

 

[charliemagpie]

Look for ADAS features to be mandatory on future cars. A new AAA Traffic Safety report says ADAS could save thousands of lives. It says in part;
“ New research by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety estimates that available ADAS technologies could prevent approximately 37 million crashes, 14 million injuries, and nearly 250,000 deaths over the next 30 years. This would represent 16% of crashes and injuries and 22% of deaths that would otherwise occur on U.S. roads without these technologies.”

Just like seatbelts, it’s going to be mandatory. FSD will follow, and your insurance rates will reflect it. Right now, the FAA has mandates on the minimums to fly certain aircraft. However, they don’t mean much as the insurance companies minimums are WAY higher. The insurance runs the planes, not the regulator.

Yep, not only insurance but car registrations fees

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