Two Cybertrucks Up Close Driving By! 👂

[PilotPete]

This sounds great for Halloween but I hope the low speed sound is either programmable or at least there are some options.

My inner 14 year old is just going to pipe the “Whoopi cushion” sounds outside!

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[CactusPilot]

I thought the rear view in my M3 was atrocious at first, but i got used to it within a week. I imagine the CT will be similar.. Never expected to have any visibility through the mid gate, but the huge screen and digital mirrors should be more than enough to get around...

The biggest blind spot issue is going to be the A pillar IMHO

 

[Abl3rider]

It won't be. Can't change it on any of the cars.

Could at one point. But regulators gonna regulate

What are you guys talking about, my MY is perfectly silent except in reverse. Are you saying that some other Tesla models make fake engine sounds? I’ve never heard that. That would be stupid.

 

[Gurule92]

What are you guys talking about, my MY is perfectly silent except in reverse. Are you saying that some other Tesla models make fake engine sounds? I’ve never heard that. That would be stupid.

Not it's not.

Your car. And all Teslas with the PWS emit sounds under 15 miles per hour.

No one said fake engine sounds.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_cn/GUID-5D8F5B42-90F9-4ED7-9B36-A54BFED1030C.html

 

[Gurule92]

The MX was either too old to have PWS or it was disabled (which is possible).

Or you just didn't hear it.

It's like white noise

 

[CyberGus]

NHTSA May Require PWS to Be Retrofitted on All Electric Vehicles
February 9, 2023
By Lennon Cihak

NHTSA is investigating whether EVs should be retrofitted with pedestrian warning systems


The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) is investigating whether hybrid-electric and electric vehicles from 1997 to present should have external speakers installed for pedestrian safety. The investigation was officially opened on January 27th, according to Teslarati.

In 2018, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 141 passed. This new safety standard required electric vehicles and hybrid-electric vehicles with a weight of 10,000 pounds (4,536 kilograms) or less to have a pedestrian warning system (PWS). A PWS is an external speaker on the vehicle that plays a sound when the vehicle is traveling at low speeds. This ensures pedestrians can hear vehicles if they’re nearby.

Sounds of the PWS While Driving

EVs and hybrid-electric vehicles can be extremely quiet, especially at low speeds. EVs can go unheard when approaching stop signs, crosswalks, and intersections, especially if there are other environmental sounds as well.

In July 2022, a petition was received by the NHTSA that urged the organization to require all EVs and hybrid-electric vehicles to have external noisemakers installed on them. Any vehicles without them, regardless of their manufacture date, would be considered to have a safety defect, according to the NHTSA’s Office of Defect Investigation.

“The petitioner asserts that hybrid and electric vehicles to which the standard does not apply should be found to contain a safety defect. In support of the petition, the petitioner includes findings contained in a bill introduced in the House of Representatives in 2009, the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2009, H.R. 734, 111th CONG. (2009).”

The passing of the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2009, which was signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2011, says all vehicles should have a feature for “alerting blind and other pedestrians of the presence and operation of nearby motor vehicles to enable such pedestrians to travel safely and independently in urban, rural, and residential environments.”

Should the NHTSA agree and side with the petitioners, roughly 9.1 million cars across multiple manufacturers would be affected. These include Polestar, Tesla, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Honda, and more.

Tesla’s Pedestrian Warning System

Tesla started installing their PWS in their vehicles in 2019. This was a mandatory change for Tesla, as both the US and EU passed laws requiring electric vehicles to make some kind of noise due to their quiet sound levels at slower speeds. The noise is played continuously until speeds of 19mph are reached, per the US regulation.

“The Pedestrian Warning System (PWS) is an audible tone played when the vehicle is moving slowly (up to 19 mph) in either Drive or Reverse,” Tesla said at the time in a memo to staff. “The sound is played via a speaker mounted in the front fascia and alerts nearby pedestrians of the car’s presence in low-speed situations.”

Tesla started manufacturing vehicles for this long before the regulations went into effect. Tesla enthusiast and YouTuber DÆrik noticed the speaker grill on the front underside of his 2018 Performance Model 3.

PWS Also Adds Boombox Feature

In classic Tesla and Elon Musk fashion, they went the extra mile and added some playful goodies for owners to get a laugh out of. They called this new feature “Boombox,” which allowed sounds to be played using the vehicle’s external speaker. For example, while in park or drive, the vehicle was able to fart, play music, and any noises the user uploaded.

Unfortunately, the NHTSA thought this was distracting and banned the feature while in drive. It's currently available in most regions around the world while the vehicle is parked.

If NHTSA requires Tesla to retroactively install PWS in their vehicles built before 2019, owners will at least have the Boombox feature to look forward to. During Tesla's 2022 holiday update, Tesla also added the ability to use Emissions Testing Mode through the Tesla app. If your vehicle is equipped with the PWS, then the vehicle will play the farting sound through its external speaker. Otherwise, it will be played through the internal speakers - which isn't quite as much fun.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1...ws-to-be-retrofitted-on-all-electric-vehicles

 

[Abl3rider]

Not it's not.

Your car. And all Teslas with the PWS emit sounds under 15 miles per hour.

No one said fake engine sounds.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_cn/GUID-5D8F5B42-90F9-4ED7-9B36-A54BFED1030C.html

Okay if you say so, I’m glad I can’t hear it, and neither can my kids, I guess it’s like white noise that blends in with the tire hum and other sounds. But in this video it sounds more like simulated motor sound.

 

[Gurule92]

Okay if you say so, I’m glad I can’t hear it, and neither can my kids, I guess it’s like white noise that blends in with the tire hum and other sounds. But in this video it sounds more like simulated motor sound.

It's not loud for sure. Not like reverse.

 

[cvalue13]

Okay if you say so, I’m glad I can’t hear it, and neither can my kids, I guess it’s like white noise that blends in with the tire hum and other sounds. But in this video it sounds more like simulated motor sound.

I believe *some* of what people are hearing is the sound of 35” M&S tires

 

[cvalue13]

Lennon Cihak

NHTSA is investigating whether EVs should be retrofitted with pedestrian warning systems

On the CT

 

[Gurule92]

Okay if you say so, I’m glad I can’t hear it, and neither can my kids, I guess it’s like white noise that blends in with the tire hum and other sounds. But in this video it sounds more like simulated motor sound.

 

[Gurule92]

Yea it was too old lol. They recently added

 

[kbolt]

Not it's not.

Your car. And all Teslas with the PWS emit sounds under 15 miles per hour.

No one said fake engine sounds.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_cn/GUID-5D8F5B42-90F9-4ED7-9B36-A54BFED1030C.html

My MY also doesn't make a noise at low speed going forward. If I'm sitting there parked but in drive and then creep forward there is no indication. You can hear it switching from park to drive, but that's all.

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