Bulletproof tested Cybertruck spotted!! Musk confirms: "No bullets penetrated into the passenger compartment." [⚠️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[cvalue13]

The post-apocalyptic, para-military, prepper-pilled marketing angle is so cringe

To @CyberGus ‘s point, it’s one thing to hammer home “extremely dent resistant” and in passing maybe a glancing mention of this whole ‘even bullet resistant’ as a factoid

But the base design of the CT, plus all these para-military wraps, plus this now very in-your-face bullet riddled unit with Musk bragging about unloading a tommy gun “Al Capone style” …

begins to take this design/product language away from the 1970’s revisionist future (very cool) into instead an INCEL in an ‘Affliction’ T-Shirt vibe

really hope they dial this BS back or I’m going to start feeling guilty by association

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[Cybergirl]

Now we know that at least the doors are 3mm stainless.

 

[CyberGus]

The post-apocalyptic, para-military, prepper-pilled marketing angle is so cringe

To @CyberGus ‘s point, it’s one thing to hammer home “extremely dent resistant” and in passing maybe a glancing mention of this whole ‘even bullet resistant’ as a factoid

But the base design of the CT, plus all these para-military wraps, plus this now very in-your-face bullet riddled unit with Musk bragging about unloading a tommy gun “Al Capone style” …

begins to take this design/product language away from the 1970’s revisionist future (very cool) into instead an INCEL in an ‘Affliction’ T-Shirt vibe

really hope they dial this BS back or I’m going to start feeling guilty by association

Elon is the ultimate prepper. He's planning to restart civilization on another planet!

 

[CybertruckAgent]

The post-apocalyptic, para-military, prepper-pilled marketing angle is so cringe

To @CyberGus ‘s point, it’s one thing to hammer home “extremely dent resistant” and in passing maybe a glancing mention of this whole ‘even bullet resistant’ as a factoid

But the base design of the CT, plus all these para-military wraps, plus this now very in-your-face bullet riddled unit with Musk bragging about unloading a tommy gun “Al Capone style” …

begins to take this design/product language away from the 1970’s revisionist future (very cool) into instead an INCEL in an ‘Affliction’ T-Shirt vibe

really hope they dial this BS back or I’m going to start feeling guilty by association

It’s already too late for guilt by association ? for real though if the summer of love in 2020 didn’t open your eyes to the usefulness of a bulletproof vehicle then I don’t really know what to tell you.

 

[HaulingAss]

Somebody dug into this on Twitter, but I guess there’s some 75 round magazines now as well?

Oh, come on, why can't you just accept the prevailing narrative: Elon lied. Everyone knows he only emptied 74% of a 100 round mag because he got afraid he might perforate the door and he's not a real paramilitary type either. I mean what kind of paramilitary type uses a Tommy Gun? LOL Everyone knows that's for 1920's gangsters.

Obviously. And this matters.

/s

I'm just glad to see Elon having a little good-old-fashioned fun while goofing off. Lord knows he doesn't take much time off from more serious duties.

Mary Barra would probably be like "Oh, no, can't do that, it will piss off the gun control crowd and remind them how much GM has profited off the military-industrial complex by selling Sherman tanks, M10 and M36 tank destroyers, M-16 machine guns, B-25 bombers, B-17's, B-24's, cannons, torpedoes, 30 caliber Browning machine guns, over 120 million artillary shells, etc."

In fact, GM has recieved many billions of dollars from the Pentagon, money that tied them through tough times in the auto market. Development contracts that led to dead ends but were highly profitable for GM.

I don't think it would be too much of an exaggeration to say that war is one of the primary contributors to GM's historical financial success and people who oppose anything "military" in nature would see that as a bad thing. Elon has never supported military aggression and has little to fear by goofing off with a Tommy gun except pissing off those who think the government should make everything illegal to protect us from law abiding citizens.

I think Elon likes guns for much the same reasons I do, not for their killing power, but for the engineering and physics behind them. Better than firecrackers and bottle rockets! Things that go "bang" are fun! People who use them for evil, even if they are cops, should be dealt with harshly.

 

[WheezyLex]

CT wouldn’t stand a chance. 45ACP out of a rifle is clocking somewhere around 500-600ftlbs of muzzle energy. 5.56 and 7.62x39 are more like 1500ftlbs plus Rifle rounds travel much faster and have a penetrating bullet shape, apples and oranges. This does prove it’s handgun proof outside of magnum rounds, and the vast majority of crime and murder in the US is done with handguns (99.99%).

Thanks, man. I was thinking the same but am curious all the same!

—Lex

 

[kbolt]

I hope it helps them sell more than 19 units next quarter.

 

[Prime8]

Gun nerd time! 45ACP is famously non-penetrating due to its wide meplat and short depth combined with shorter case and lower charge, however it does carry significantly more energy out of a 16” barrel from a rifle than 9mm does out of a typical 4” handgun barrel. Originally Elon said bulletproof up to 9mm so the final product is actually more bulletproof than the prototype… I doubt that’s a design spec and more likely the happy result of crash testing. Either way it’s perfect for modern day LA or Portland ??

Good news, it's even more perfect for Nashville with a murder rate more than double LA and four times Portland!

 

[davelloydbrown]

Note the two missing rearward windows and two bullet holes in the driver’s window

they didn't know it was a tesla and shot into the frunk thinking it was an engine and then shot into the trunk trying to hit the gas tank and finally shot out his tires. The car drove over 100 mph with shot out tires because the car was able to compensate and he drove himself to the hospital with numerous injuries and survived.

 

[Green Gene]

Per Elon Musk:

"We emptied the entire drum magazine of a Tommy gun into the driver door Al Capone style. No bullets penetrated into the passenger compartment."

 

[Green Gene]

Am I the only one concerned with this? Although admittedly cool. I don't want to put down a good sum of money on a CyberTruck only to have some nut test out how bullet proof the car is and what size rounds does it take to penetrate the skin. Will insurance cover this? I think not? There are too may Tesla's currently being keyed. The last thing I need is someone shooting at my truck. I feel promoting this is not a good idea.

Looking closer, looks like two maybe hit the rear quarter panel.

Oh, and Musk responded....

Per Elon Musk:

"We emptied the entire drum magazine of a Tommy gun into the driver door Al Capone style. No bullets penetrated into the passenger compartment."

 

[cvalue13]

It’s already too late for guilt by association ? for real though if the summer of love in 2020 didn’t open your eyes to the usefulness of a bulletproof vehicle then I don’t really know what to tell you.

I know you're being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but it touches on part of the point

there is zero practical utility to having “bullet-resistance” in the panels or windows of a volume production vehicle

the utility is in it being more immune to don’ts, dings, and chipped glass from all the usual cases

which tee’s up the dumbness here: anyone who is both (A) actually purchasing the CT for this bullet resistance, and (B) has any material intent/likelihood of needing to rely on it, is an (all caps) IDIOT

If instead doing only (A), I wouldn’t tell any one person how to spend their $, but to pitch it to others?

 

[Bill837]

Am I the only one concerned with this? Although admittedly cool. I don't want to put down a good sum of money on a CyberTruck only to have some nut test out how bullet proof the car is and what size rounds does it take to penetrate the skin. Will insurance cover this? I think not? There are too may Tesla's currently being keyed. The last thing I need is someone shooting at my truck. I feel promoting this is not a good idea.

See I think it's a pretty huge jump to go from keying to people actually firing guns at a vehicle for kicks. I mean I live in a place where there are a lot of guns and I just don't see that happening. I mean if you hang out where casual gunfire is a thing and it's not like downrange at targets and s*** maybe don't go there with your truck or don't go there at all.

I mean let's logic this out. Where do you think you might be when this happens? Who do you think might be actually doing it and how often does your life put you in those sorts of places where there are people who might do this and are equipped to do it? Me I go into downtown DC maybe 2 to 3 times a year. But I damn sure don't go into the parts of DC where people do casual gunfire.

 

[MEDICALJMP]

Assuming they used a true Thompson (and not just some rifle with a drum magazine), the drums are 50 or 100 rounds

They emptied the drum, while this CT has >50 but <100 impacts

where’d those other rounds go

Who says they had full drums? Or that the gun did not malfunction? When were the last true Thompson submachine guns made? Model 1928 last made in 1945. Those drums are 78 years old. There are lots of reasons why they may have not fired 100 rounds.

 

[JBee]

I know you're being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but it touches on part of the point

there is zero practical utility to having “bullet-resistance” in the panels or windows of a volume production vehicle

the utility is in it being more immune to don’ts, dings, and chipped glass from all the usual cases

which tee’s up the dumbness here: anyone who is both (A) actually purchasing the CT for this bullet resistance, and (B) has any material intent/likelihood of needing to rely on it, is an (all caps) IDIOT

If instead doing only (A), I wouldn’t tell any one person how to spend their $, but to pitch it to others?

Although it's not complete protection it is still more protection though?

Ultimately, there is no such thing as bulletproof in an open arms race, but it's not just dings, utxs any firm of ingress protection, loads falling off trucks, branches or house parts in a tornado etc.

There are plenty of technical units out there that only offer certain protection from some angles. Even tanks are designed to face the enemy and have "soft' spots that are targeted.

I agree that without the same level of protection in the glass it's not as safe as it could be, but it is still more safe.

Also, it should be noted that some simple cut out sheets with suits for the cameras to look out of, and placed on the windows, the protection could be improved. Let alone if you added some fairly simple kevlar matting to dissipate the impact load over a greater area the calibre level could also be increased.

Would I want to go to war in it...um no, I don't like war... but would I rather use that than anything else that is actually affordable and in the market? I think I would.

Much rather that than this "military vehicle" from GM.

Besides, I think we all know full well that the SS skin is there for other reasons anyway, but it also just happens to work well to stop 9mm/0.45 as well. So no loss there if it didn't cost extra.

Hype or no hype.

From an advertising angle it's fairly genius though, if not a bit macabre, given the state of the world.

I also wonder what the armour plating industry thinks of it.

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