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I guess the moral of the story is that if you design an EV truck to look just like an ICE truck, you have a lot of space space left over when you don't install a gas engine.
The efficiency will tell the whole story. If the CT shape saves it 5% in drag and is lighter than the competition then we may have a winning combo but if it’s just as heavy then we will know that thick stainless and casting combo didn’t actually do much
 


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The efficiency will tell the whole story. If the CT shape saves it 5% in drag and is lighter than the competition then we may have a winning combo but if it’s just as heavy then we will know that thick stainless and casting combo didn’t actually do much

We'll need to see if it holds up but I believe that the Rivian came in with a more aerodynamic shape then the cybertruck ( the CT specswere taken from the origional) but weight may still save it.
 

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Why are we pretending we don't know the weight? Both EM and this leak confirm it's a bit heavier than a Lightning. It follows that the stainless steel panels aren't doing much, for the most part they're being carried as dead weight.
 
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Why are we pretending we don't know the weight? Both EM and this leak confirm it's a bit heavier than a Lightning. It follows that the stainless steel panels aren't doing much, for the most part they're being carried as dead weight.
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Eh, a 6 foot bed with crew cab configuration is about as good as it gets these days.
Really anything after 6’ would have to go to 8’ to make a significant difference snd that is a big step.
There are plenty of SuperCrew-like cabs paired with 6.5’ beds available

The catch is that they’re mostly 3/4 ton+ class vehicles.

The ‘market’ pinch point is that all the super crews with 6.5’ beds have huge footprints eg …

Wheelbase (in.)157
Length, Overall (in.)243.5


Not many are buying vehicles that large unless they really need it for eg hauling or towing, etc.

In that crowd, 1/2 ton trucks are viewed as nearly adorable weekend warrior mobiles

So the market segments roughly as:

  • Cute little consumer 1/2 tons with 5.5’ beds, vs
  • Real work truck 3/4 tons+ with 6.5’ beds+


A CT with a 6.5’ bed, and the other 2019 stats for the “Tri Motor” (in terms of payload and towing), threatened to add a nearly 3/4 ton capabilities and bed size instead in the footprint of a 1/2 ton truck, that happens to be BEV

where we’ve landed instead is a similar trick, in terms of class vs size, but ratcheted down a knotch: nearly 1/2 ton capabilities and bed size in the footprint of a medium-sized truck

And while it’s possible the CT later comes in a trim that manages more than ~2,500lbs payload and 11,000lb towing, it’s not going to be attendant to a bed with anything like a true 6.5’ bed
 


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Why are we pretending we don't know the weight? Both EM and this leak confirm it's a bit heavier than a Lightning. It follows that the stainless steel panels aren't doing much, for the most part they're being carried as dead weight.
They are doing something...providing ingress protection from collisions...with bullets. :p
 
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Wow! Can I please borrow your crystal ball? I need a lottery ticket …
for the point @RVAC was making, there isn’t any need for a crystal ball

the notion of the panels as structural was in part that it would save weight compared to a traditional traditional frame construction

the CT weighs more than a Lightning

ergo…
 

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I mean, only one country on the planet has landed on the moon, and they use CSUs
ALL fake! Just like the Kardashians.:alien:

Why do you think they "had to" bounce the signal of the live moon broadcast through the Honeysuckle dish in Australia, where they had also conveniently built the to scale moon landing studio, just behind the billabong outhouse out yonder? :eek:

Von Braun was also metric, being of course "Made in Germany", and imported to the USA.

But at least they had enough sense to make the Apollo flight computer in SI/metric, because it worked out to be faster getting to the moon a meter at a time, instead of a foot at a time.
 

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ALL fake! Just like the Kardashians.:alien:

Why do you think they "had to" bounce the signal of the live moon broadcast through the Honeysuckle dish in Australia, where they had also conveniently built the to scale moon landing studio, just behind the billabong outhouse out yonder? :eek:

Von Braun was also metric, being of course "Made in Germany", and imported to the USA.

But at least they had enough sense to make the Apollo flight computer in SI/metric, because it worked out to be faster getting to the moon a meter at a time, instead of a foot at a time.
The biggest mistake NASA made when faking the moon landing was listening to the marketing team who REALLY wanted a video of the earth rising over the horizon. Problem is that since the moon is tidally locked, earth-rise doesn't happen on the moon. There isn't anywhere on the moon where the apparent position of the earth in the "sky" moves*. ?

*procession and libration are too slow to be captured during a mission

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