Poll: What aspect of CT Are you Unhappy With

[davelloydbrown]

Elon purchased the lotus that was used as a submarine in the James Bond movie and has been fascinated with it and its wedge shape.

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[AZCYBER]

I will admit the performance and capabilities are insane. A 60% increase in the advertised price? I just can't justify it. By the time you add the spare tire, necessary for me, and the range extender the price is closer to 100k for the AWD and you loose a lot of your cargo space.

Help me with the math. What model increased 60%? Might want to adjust for Bidenomics inflation as well.

 

[Zabhawkin]

Help me with the math. What model increased 60%? Might want to adjust for Bidenomics inflation as well.

The AWD, 300+miles at reveal was $50k now $80k

 

[Variable556]

Help me with the math. What model increased 60%? Might want to adjust for Bidenomics inflation as well.

Dual Motor “order” price (for delivery in late ‘21) was listed as $49,900

49,900 x .6 = 29,940 (for 60%)

49,900 + 29,940 = $79,840


Current list price for the “AWD” (no longer called “Dual Motor”) is $79,990.

So the increase was very slightly over 60%.

 

[ÆCIII]

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That's what the Range Extender pack is for. It might seem a little expensive, but if one tows a lot with an ICE vehicle, the extender pack used in an EV will pay for itself in five to ten years in costs per mile savings. But if one tows only a little, it shouldn't be that big of an issue anyway.

Compared to ICE, driving an EV truck can easily save 10k over a five year period, and that's with gas prices around $3.25 per gallon. If gas prices go up, the savings increase even more. If towing a lot, both an ICE or an EV will use a lot more energy, so the cost savings per mile is still realized.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla offers some kind of rental or lease option for the extender pack for those wanting to tow on long road trips occasionally. I think that would be a good idea.

It's a tough pill to swallow on the front end but period to pay off and realize a return on investment often passes more quickly than we realize.

What is 'wrong on so many levels-' is being in a continuous financial rut where one is enslaved to keep paying gas prices with a normalized legacy auto dealer and service experience where they keep fleecing your pockets too, even for years and years after a Cybertruck would've been paid off. EVs offer an escape from that. The Cybertruck is expensive up front, but it will be a worthwhile investment and then some after five or so years of ownership.

My Model 3 is providing a great return on investment right now, and the first five years of ownership 'flew by' unbelievably fast for me. I would be having serious regrets right now if I didn't decide to put faith and go all in on the Model 3 purchase back in 2018. The Cybertruck will not be any different. It is about 20 percent more expensive than my Model 3 Performance was, but it has so so much more to offer. I think many people are emotionally looking at the up front costs, without closely examining the value-for-money, performance, technology, and cost of ownership savings over a few short years.

Remember also the Cybertruck will dominate all others in performance and driving experience, as Tesla has made sure of that. I wish anyone the best on whatever they decide.

- ÆCIII

 

[dukeandtheland]

I would slightly edit your post by saying:
That's what the original 500 mi range is for. The so called extender is exorbitantly more expensive and competely destroys the bed space. Heck, it's not even the same truck anymore, is it? Maybe they can add a trim, and call it the "Humpback Whale" trim, $96K, 470mi range, 3' ft bed, with a fine print saying: watch for center of gravity shift!
The rest analysis can go on then.

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That's what the Range Extender pack is for. It might seem a little expensive, but if one tows a lot with an ICE vehicle, the extender pack used in an EV will pay for itself in five to ten years in costs per mile savings. But if one tows only a little, it shouldn't be that big of an issue anyway.

Compared to ICE, driving an EV truck can easily save 10k over a five year period, and that's with gas prices around $3.25 per gallon. If gas prices go up, the savings increase even more. If towing a lot, both an ICE or an EV will use a lot more energy, so the cost savings per mile is still realized.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla offers some kind of rental or lease option for the extender pack for those wanting to tow on long road trips occasionally. I think that would be a good idea.

It's a tough pill to swallow on the front end but period to pay off and realize a return on investment often passes more quickly than we realize.

What is 'wrong on so many levels-' is being in a continuous financial rut where one is enslaved to keep paying gas prices with a normalized legacy auto dealer and service experience where they keep fleecing your pockets too, even for years and years after a Cybertruck would've been paid off. EVs offer an escape from that. The Cybertruck is expensive up front, but it will be a worthwhile investment and then some after five or so years of ownership.

My Model 3 is providing a great return on investment right now, and the first five years of ownership 'flew by' unbelievably fast for me. I would be having serious regrets right now if I didn't decide to put faith and go all in on the Model 3 purchase back in 2018. The Cybertruck will not be any different. It is about 20 percent more expensive than my Model 3 Performance was, but it has so so much more to offer. I think many people are emotionally looking at the up front costs, without closely examining the value-for-money, performance, technology, and cost of ownership savings over a few short years.

Remember also the Cybertruck will dominate all others in performance and driving experience, as Tesla has made sure of that. I wish anyone the best on whatever they decide.

- ÆCIII

 

[ÆCIII]

The AWD, 300+miles at reveal was $50k now $80k

Tesla did specify in the Reservation agreement that prices displayed in the original reveal, were Estimates Only, so it's not realistic to act like they were promising those prices when they specified clearly they were just estimates:

Percentage differences from 2019 estimates are misleading because Tesla never actually promised those prices.

- ÆCIII

 

[dukeandtheland]

Seriously, who would actually believe Tesla is obligated to honor that original pricing? Manufacturer's official, hard printed, MSRP is not even a promise, nada, useless, or dealers all have to eat dirt.

There is no buy-sell transaction every happened at that point. The 100 bucks is not for buying jacksht. If anyone needs to read this to be convinced, I mean...
Before a contract is executed verbally or written, anyone can walk away. No one is obligated to honor anything. That's never the point.

Tesla did specify in the Reservation agreement that prices displayed in the original reveal, were Estimates Only, so it's not realistic to act like they were promising those prices when they specified clearly they were just estimates:

Percentage differences from 2019 estimates are misleading because Tesla never actually promised those prices.

- ÆCIII

 

[ÆCIII]

I would slightly edit your post by saying:
That's what the original 500 mi range is for. The so called extender is exorbitantly more expensive and competely destroys the bed space. Heck, it's not even the same truck anymore, isn't it?
The rest analysis can go on then.

Everyone has their future sight distance set differently so I respect anyone's opinion. Just remember that Tesla designs products for the long term, but investments often require knowledge and faith to emotionally handle cost challenges in the short term.

I'm just sharing my long-term perspective, but if that's not your view then I respect that and you don't need to convince me. I would say ask yourself how your decision will play out five to ten years from now, both in financial and ownership experience. Just be sure you're doing what's best for you

Best of Luck in all your purchase decisions.

- ÆCIII

 

[SpaceYooper]

Percentage differences from 2019 estimates are misleading because Tesla never actually promised those prices.

They are not misleading. We all know they were an estimate and now the price is a fact (subject to change). It just happens to be a fact that their estimate was up to 60% off which is highly unfortunate if they were truly trying to make a full-size mass market EV truck.

 

[ÆCIII]

They are not misleading. We all know they were an estimate and now the price is a fact (subject to change). It just happens to be a fact that their estimate was up to 60% off which is highly unfortunate if they were truly trying to make a full-size mass market EV truck.

Yes, but a little over four years have also passed, and unusually high inflation is a big part of that. No one can blame Tesla for all of that percentage increase. In fact for Tesla's small part of the increase was due mainly to enhancements and improvements to the original design. Remember the current Cybertruck is ahead of the 2019 version on so many levels too. So comparing to that and trying to cite an increase to blame on whoever is still misleading, because it's a totally different truck now anyway in addition to the inflation which was not Tesla's fault.

But you and many others here do have a point, as Tesla was over-promising in the range department back in 2019. Still though, Tesla is doing better than anyone else at scale right now.

- ÆCIII

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