Windshield wiper blade replacement price $75. Windshield glass price $1900. + other parts prices! (RETAIL PRICES)💰

[CT Owner Vito]

The difference? Diesel trucks go a million miles, these will plummet in value at 100k

I’m not so sure. My first MS was a 2014-60. It had over 227,000 miles on it when I sold it. And it still commanded 5 figures. I am hopeful (as is the buyer), that it will hit 500,000 miles one day.

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[Love2Cyber]

I’m not so sure. My first MS was a 2014-60. It had over 227,000 miles on it when I sold it. And it still commanded 5 figures. I am hopeful (as is the buyer), that it will hit 500,000 miles one day.

Similar to a model 3 - low end / cheap car. My experience was a 2015 P85D. Replaced 6 door handles before they got it right, and replaced both drive units before 75k miles. That car sold for 110k originally. 60k when I bought it with 44k miles, and 32k when I sold it at 75k.

 

[KuMX]

BTW these are retail prices. I updated the thread title to make that clear.

 

[HaulingAss]

I have personally been doing all maintenance on my families 4 vehicles for 20 years. They rarely rarely go into the shop. I personally replaced the heads on my truck and personally replaced the clutch and entire breaking system recently. I do more auto maintenance than 99.9% of folks out there. My truck does not have a power steering motor. It has a $100 power steering pump driven by a belt rotated by the trucks engine.

We have two Tesla Model 3's, both of them over 5 years old. I do the seasonal switchover between winter and summer tires myself. I maintain the tire air pressure, all by myself. I fill the windshield washer fluid resevoir all by myself.

I've done almost everything on my vehicles for the first 30 years of my life, including three engine rebuilds, fuel pump replacements, fuel filter replacements, spark plugs, valve jobs, carb synching, alternator replacements, new belts and hoses, new clutch plates, oil and filter changes, tune-ups, power steering fluid, wheel alignments, etc. etc. etc.

Man, I don't miss all the time I wasted on that! Well, not completely wasted, I saved some money and invested it, but now I live in a manner that doesn't require me to do those things. The old way of doing things was not better, it was done out of necessity, I simply didn't earn enough buy cars that didn't need all that and paying mechanics would have meant that I couldn't save money and drink some good beer too! Of course, we didn't have the practical option of EVs back then.

The world keeps getting better. I wouldn't buy a gasoline powered car or truck now if someone paid me to take it (if it was stipulated that I had to use it). No way, no how! Our electric cars never break.

 

[HaulingAss]

Draw outline, detail two bends. Order in stainless from Send Cut Send or Oshcut in Sus… done ?

You can't order the same metal from any supplier, its proprietary, for Tesla only. The closest thing available over-the-counter would probably be cold-rolled full-hard 304 SS sheet, and even that's pretty hard to find in small quantities because it's so difficult to cut (or even drill or bend). There is simply not much demand for it because it's so hard to do anything with.

 

[Angle]

You can't order the same metal from any supplier, its proprietary…

I was suggesting if they just wanted a table it wouldn't have to be the EXACT alloy and hardness.

Also you can Waterjet cut any grade of SS like butter. Regardless of temper or alloy.

 

[HaulingAss]

I was suggesting if they just wanted a table it wouldn't have to be the EXACT alloy and hardness.

Also you can Waterjet cut any grade of SS like butter. Regardless of temper or alloy.

Haha! No. Butter will cut much easier, even with a waterjet! Full hard 304 will require a slower feed rate than unhardened stainless of the same alloy.

 

[Angle]

Haha! No. Butter will cut much easier, even with a waterjet! Full hard 304 will require a slower feed rate than unhardened stainless of the same alloy.

I run a waterjet. I assure you full hard SS of any grade under 3mm it wouldn't break a sweat. Its not some magical material. Not sure why youre pushing back on that. ?

 

[HaulingAss]

I run a waterjet. I assure you full hard SS of any grade under 3mm it wouldn't break a sweat. Its not some magical material. Not sure why youre pushing back on that. ?

I never said it was magical, what a silly comment! I said harder materials require slower feeds than softer materials, all else being equal.

Can you provide a link to purchase approx. 1.8 mm 304 stainless steel sheet in full hard condition, in small sizes (about a foot square)? What thicknesses of full hard SS have you cut on your machine?

 

[BigE]

Via Cybertruck parts catalog: https://epc.tesla.com/en-US/catalogs/2816.

Some parts pricing (retail prices):

Windshield wiper blade: $75
Windshield wiper arm & blade: $165
Windshield glass: $1900
Front steering actuator: $3300
Shatterproof side windows: $200-$260
Powered frunk & fascia: $1910 + $935
Front fenders: $550/each
35" All-Terrain A/T tire (Goodyear Wrangler Territory RT (285/65R20): $470/each

All seems reasonable

 

[anionic1]

We have two Tesla Model 3's, both of them over 5 years old. I do the seasonal switchover between winter and summer tires myself. I maintain the tire air pressure, all by myself. I fill the windshield washer fluid resevoir all by myself.

I've done almost everything on my vehicles for the first 30 years of my life, including three engine rebuilds, fuel pump replacements, fuel filter replacements, spark plugs, valve jobs, carb synching, alternator replacements, new belts and hoses, new clutch plates, oil and filter changes, tune-ups, power steering fluid, wheel alignments, etc. etc. etc.

Man, I don't miss all the time I wasted on that! Well, not completely wasted, I saved some money and invested it, but now I live in a manner that doesn't require me to do those things. The old way of doing things was not better, it was done out of necessity, I simply didn't earn enough buy cars that didn't need all that and paying mechanics would have meant that I couldn't save money and drink some good beer too! Of course, we didn't have the practical option of EVs back then.

The world keeps getting better. I wouldn't buy a gasoline powered car or truck now if someone paid me to take it (if it was stipulated that I had to use it). No way, no how! Our electric cars never break.

The point was that if something costs 3000% more it’s not even a comparison. Of course it should be much more advanced. People are acting like Tesla using steer by wire is some huge leap for vehicle kind. If it costs 3000% more is it really an advancement or just splurging? I could put a high performance racing engine in a new Tacoma and if a came out and said this is how Tacoma’s should be made everyone would say it’s splurging and not necessary. At some point if the advancement costs so much and doesn’t improve things exponentially is it really worth it. In my opinion Tesla missed the mark on pricing for sure.

 

[HaulingAss]

The point was that if something costs 3000% more it’s not even a comparison. Of course it should be much more advanced. People are acting like Tesla using steer by wire is some huge leap for vehicle kind. If it costs 3000% more is it really an advancement or just splurging? I could put a high performance racing engine in a new Tacoma and if a came out and said this is how Tacoma’s should be made everyone would say it’s splurging and not necessary. At some point if the advancement costs so much and doesn’t improve things exponentially is it really worth it. In my opinion Tesla missed the mark on pricing for sure.

Except steer by wire doesn't cost 3000% more once you consider the longer service life! And it's the future, initial prices are always higher with the introduction of new, better ways of doing things. Electronic Fuel Injection used to be priced only for people with money to burn. Now it's trickled down to scooters and even chainsaws. Prices drop with increasing volumes.

As someone who values the ability to "thread the needle" in tight areas easily, without doing frantic hand-over-hand from left to right, I'm gonna say, "My God, it's about time!".

Not everyone buys new cars, but by the time Cybertruck filters down to people who buy used cars, even people without a lot of spare money are going to be falling over themselves to buy one.

There is no fundamental reason why it would be any less reliable than current electric assist steering systems and probably a lot more reliable than old belt driven hydraulic pumps and serpentine belts that required servicing, even when it didn't fail. I spent enough time just keeping my ride(s) reliable and serviceable when I was younger, now I'm glad there's something better, the fact that it improves manuaeverability in ways that the steering on my F-150 could never keep up with, takes automotive steering to a new level.

The way Tesla works is they use failure data returned from their fleet to relentlessly improve parts and processes, with the goal of extreme longevity and 100% reliability. Of course, nothing ever is, but Tesla will not stop pushing closer and closer to that 100% goal.

I see steer by wire as being one of the most meaningful automotive advancements in the last 20 years, excepting of course those advancements specific to EV drivetrains.

 

[firsttruck]

Except steer by wire doesn't cost 3000% more once you consider the longer service life! And it's the future, initial prices are always higher with the introduction of new, better ways of doing things. Electronic Fuel Injection used to be priced only for people with money to burn. Now it's trickled down to scooters and even chainsaws. Prices drop with increasing volumes.

As someone who values the ability to "thread the needle" in tight areas easily, without doing frantic hand-over-hand from left to right, I'm gonna say, "My God, it's about time!".

Not everyone buys new cars, but by the time Cybertruck filters down to people who buy used cars, even people without a lot of spare money are going to be falling over themselves to buy one.

There is no fundamental reason why it would be any less reliable than current electric assist steering systems and probably a lot more reliable than old belt driven hydraulic pumps and serpentine belts that required servicing, even when it didn't fail. I spent enough time just keeping my ride(s) reliable and serviceable when I was younger, now I'm glad there's something better, the fact that it improves manuaeverability in ways that the steering on my F-150 could never keep up with, takes automotive steering to a new level.

The way Tesla works is they use failure data returned from their fleet to relentlessly improve parts and processes, with the goal of extreme longevity and 100% reliability. Of course, nothing ever is, but Tesla will not stop pushing closer and closer to that 100% goal.

I see steer by wire as being one of the most meaningful automotive advancements in the last 20 years, excepting of course those advancements specific to EV drivetrains.

Yup, steer-by-wire is just the latest that will soon be standard. All autonomous EVs will have steer-by-wire. Actually aren't all current autonomous EVs and even current Tesla when under AutoPilot or FSD really controlled by steer-by-wire.

There are many features that used to be options that now come standard on most cars/SUVs, pickups sold in U.S. ( this is true in many other countries too):

disc brakes
anti-lock brakes
air conditioners
steel belted radial tires
rear window defroster
automatic transmission
power windows
power door/hatch/trunk locks

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Automotive Air Conditioning History ( appears to be USA based history)
Jun 24, 2010
MotorTrend Staff Writer
https://www.motortrend.com/news/automotive-air-conditoning-history/

Today, more than 99 percent of all new cars are air-conditioned. (probably USA stats)

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[Angle]

I never said it was magical, what a silly comment! I said harder materials require slower feeds than softer materials, all else being equal.

Can you provide a link to purchase approx. 1.8 mm 304 stainless steel sheet in full hard condition, in small sizes (about a foot square)? What thicknesses of full hard SS have you cut on your machine?

https://espimetals.com

They also have 304l,

https://www.goodfellow.com

Both can provide whatever alloy and hardness.

Ive cut 2” hardened 303 and 304. That is a little on the slow side. That is heat treated SS, not work hardened… not sure if anyone really work hardens thick SS for any purpose.

 

[CyberGus]

People are acting like Tesla using steer by wire is some huge leap for vehicle kind. If it costs 3000% more is it really an advancement or just splurging?

SbW is certainly more robust and complex than the standard Tesla steering rack, but those still have assist motors. It's not like the SbW rack was replacing a simple column/pinion.

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