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Ok I'm back, please note I'm no battery range expert, and this is no controlled test. It's just what I see from my driving style:
Trip A: from south bay to Lake Berryessa to Sacramento. Stopped by the supercharger at Davis for some battery juice. 70% highway, 30% county roads with some twisties. 440 Wh/mi.
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Trip B:
Sacramento back to the bay area on I5/I580. All highway, tried to keep the speed around 75-80mph, but got caught in some light traffic. 419 Wh/mi.
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Charging at Davis: 40mins to charge from 25-80%, 73kWh.
These numbers are really good and the range is basically on par with what I get from my model 3 at these speeds.

Considering this is at higher speeds, and EV's are more efficient at lower speeds and city driving, I think anyone who is driving reasonably will likely be satisfied with their range.
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You seem to not understand Supercharging. Is that because you've never owned a Tesla?

Nobody who knows how to "get 'er done" charges to 80% while they wait. Cybertruck will be like other Tesla in that it will charge the quickest from 10% to 60%. I'm often charging to 50%-60%, occasionally to 65%-70% (depending upon the specifics), almost never to 80%, at least not while I'm waiting. Supercharging to 80% would only be if I was eating a sit down lunch or dinner or for whatever reason I wasn't ready to hit the road yet.

Oh, I've also charged to 80% because I was leaving a normal Supercharging route and entering into a "charging desert" but those situations are shrinking as quickly as the Supercharger Network is growing. Elon understands that for EV adoption to reach 100% he must continue to expand charging options.
 

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When it comes to FSD, the California experience is just not the same as everywhere else. People from elsewhere really can’t imagine just how many Teslas there are driving around out here, learning the roads and teaching each other.
 

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When it comes to FSD, the California experience is just not the same as everywhere else. People from elsewhere really can’t imagine just how many Teslas there are driving around out here, learning the roads and teaching each other.
I'm not understanding your comment. Are you aware that FSD doesn't learn specific roads? That it blends all roads together to "learn" how to react, based upon what it sees?

I've driven (mostly ridden on a motorcycle) thousands of miles of roads in California, and while each area of the U.S. does have it's own "flavor" of roads and lane markings, etc, the different areas are actually quite similiar as to how a driver needs to respond to various visual clues.

I don't claim to fully understand how AI works to learn to drive (even Tesla's own FSD developers admit they don't fully understand it), but I do think 95% of the general population have a very poor understanding of how it learns.

Two to three years ago I was using FSD on a single lane Forest Service Road after a major storm. I was the first car on the 8 mile section I test drove (since the storm). Not only was the road covered in leaves and fallen branches, it had no lane markings, no signage and the edge of the road blended seamlessly into the forest duff. FSD was amazing in its human-like behavior as it picked it's way around the fallen branches, avoided going off the steep dropoffs and smoothly sped up and slowed down relative to straightaways, tight curves and fallen branches. A couple of times it came briefly to a complete stop as it surveyed how to best get around a fallen branch and then proceeded around it, just like a human would. I'm just sharing this because I don't know how it had learned to drive so well in such an odd situation with so few visual clues (since the road was covered in leaves, needles and branches).
 

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I'm not understanding your comment. Are you aware that FSD doesn't learn specific roads? That it blends all roads together to "learn" how to react, based upon what it sees?

I've driven (mostly ridden on a motorcycle) thousands of miles of roads in California, and while each area of the U.S. does have it's own "flavor" of roads and lane markings, etc, the different areas are actually quite similiar as to how a driver needs to respond to various visual clues.

I don't claim to fully understand how AI works to learn to drive (even Tesla's own FSD developers admit they don't fully understand it), but I do think 95% of the general population have a very poor understanding of how it learns.

Two to three years ago I was using FSD on a single lane Forest Service Road after a major storm. I was the first car on the 8 mile section I test drove (since the storm). Not only was the road covered in leaves and fallen branches, it had no lane markings, no signage and the edge of the road blended seamlessly into the forest duff. FSD was amazing in its human-like behavior as it picked it's way around the fallen branches, avoided going off the steep dropoffs and smoothly sped up and slowed down relative to straightaways, tight curves and fallen branches. A couple of times it came briefly to a complete stop as it surveyed how to best get around a fallen branch and then proceeded around it, just like a human would. I'm just sharing this because I don't know how it had learned to drive so well in such an odd situation with so few visual clues (since the road was covered in leaves, needles and branches).
My experience with FSD in rural NC is amazing. If I have 1 intervention on a drive that is usually it.

I am excited that I will have FSDb in my AWD knowing it will be sometime before it is functional as they gather needed data from growing CT fleet.
 


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I'm not understanding your comment. Are you aware that FSD doesn't learn specific roads? That it blends all roads together to "learn" how to react, based upon what it sees?
Just going of Elon’s statement that FSD works best in the Bay Area. Maybe it’s a false assumption on my part that this is due to vehicular quantity. What else would be responsible for this variance?
 

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I'm not understanding your comment. Are you aware that FSD doesn't learn specific roads? That it blends all roads together to "learn" how to react, based upon what it sees?

FSD's AI blends everything together, but it has a higher bias to roads it frequents more. (just like meatbag drivers).

Different states/regions/cities have different road code and idiosyncrasies. So it's a better experience in tesla heavy areas.
 

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These numbers are really good and the range is basically on par with what I get from my model 3 at these speeds.

Considering this is at higher speeds, and EV's are more efficient at lower speeds and city driving, I think anyone who is driving reasonably will likely be satisfied with their range.
Yeah this was great. I’ll take it!
 

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You are correct sir! Charging to 80% on a road trip is not smart. Unless you want the extra time to go eat somewhere.
Sometimes you don't have a choice, or like me, you want to be cautious. Last year on a roadtrip in my Model Y LR going from San Antonio to Tucson, I charged to 85% in Deming, NM to get to Wilcox, AZ which is about 134 miles away. I like to arrive with 15-20% to be safe. Glad I did, because I encountered 20mph headwinds and a big nasty duststorm on the way and arrived with only 5% battery left.
I just reviewed my stats from that trip and it took about 25 minutes to charge from 20%-80% at V2 chargers.
 


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I wonder if TSportline will sell these decals to just anyone?
Then hey, ALL our Cybertrucks could be wrapped as Foundation Series! In fact ANY truck at all (Tundra, etc.) can now be Foundation! ?
Yes. All vehicles, with these stickers attached, will become FS and be worth an additional $20K, so maybe they are worth it..
 

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Just going of Elon’s statement that FSD works best in the Bay Area. Maybe it’s a false assumption on my part that this is due to vehicular quantity. What else would be responsible for this variance?
I think there are other areas of the country where it works roughly on par, and some areas that are different enough it is inferior. It has to do with how the local roads are engineered, pavement markings, etc. My point is just that California is not particularly unique.
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