Cybertruck V2 Range 500-640 Confirmed Possible - Battery Compartment Space

[Cyber Man]

I think they played it really smart.
The first 5,000 trucks are going to go to celebrities and Tesla superfans, all willing to pay a significant markup to be "First" Having half the battery pack removed allows them to make a great margin and show the capability of the truck and they KNEW the range was going to be an issue, but had a fix for it in the works.

I was REALLY disappointed with the released stats. But this is the reason all the split pack charging stuff has not worked, the pack is only in one piece with the other half coming later. People who are not Kim Kardashian need the extra range, especially for towing, and this allows Kim to get her "First" truck and the guy who works for a living and tows a trailer to get one.

You are so right! Kudos to Kim for biting the bullet.

At this point, I just think that Tesla is toying with reservation holders. They know really well that demand is not a problem for CT, so they are getting away with whatever they want to do or say. No test drives, half-tank batteries, hidden compartments for induction charging, no resale, no FSD, no basic auto steer, accessories missing, skip the line with credits, FS game.. more coming soon!! I might just buy an old Tundra for couple of years and let the dust settle. I anyway have two reservations. This is the longest car game I have ever played, and will continue to play I guess! ?‍

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[Crissa]

This has been rumored for a while but cat is pretty much out of the bag now.
Youtubers with 340 mile range cybertrucks are complaining already.

Good news for people who want to use Cybertruck as a work truck, haul things, or not have to charge contstantly.
Battery pack size can be doubled, found by Sandy, CONFIRMED by Wes.

GREAT news for CT reservation holders and STOCKHOLDERS!

Range extender likely the planned bandaid for the early Foundation Series trucks.

FINALLY some good news on the CT for everyone, unless you are a Tesla hater then sorry.

Confirmed by who?

None of these are people who have actually measured the space in the pack.

-Crissa

 

[FutureTruck]

I can understand that Tesla might hold back on a double-stacked HV pack until the 4680 ramp is further along.

But then why the dog-and-pony show of the "Range Extender"?

They need an option/retrofit so the 10k Foundation Series people do not bring out pitchforks. Offering the range extender "someday" that will likely never come gives then at least the option to get FS owners the same 600+ miles.

Confirmed by who?

None of these are people who have actually measured the space in the pack.

-Crissa

Brought up by Sandy Monroe, confirmed by Wes Morrill, see image above. Wes = Wes Morrill

 

[FutureTruck]

I think you're going to be disappointed if you think non-FS Cybertrucks are going to come with additional batteries. I don't think we'll be seeing Cybertrucks with bigger battery packs/more range any time soon.

Built in the space for it, and Wes confirmed it was "half full" other. Not going to get much more confirmation than that out of Tesla, but it is coming.

 

[Woodrick]

Exactly!! I wonder whether we can add extra batteries in that space for FS models as well. Thank god I made two reservations. It’s high time Tesla goes on record to say what is possible and not possible in that space instead of give half-full BS response, and huge thanks to Sandy for uncovering this.

This one is easy. NO

 

[Woodrick]

They need an option/retrofit so the 10k Foundation Series people do not bring out pitchforks. Offering the range extender "someday" that will likely never come gives then at least the option to get FS owners the same 600+ miles.


Brought up by Sandy Monroe, confirmed by Wes Morrill, see image above. Wes = Wes Morrill

Did he really confirm it? I don't think so. Sure it was him posting, confirmation wasn't exactly what he said.

 

[Crissa]

Brought up by Sandy Monroe, confirmed by Wes Morrill, see image above. Wes = Wes Morrill

That's not what I would call confirmation, but it heavily implies the double-layer pack is plausible.

There might be other reasons they didn't do it, tho.

And instead of repeating his name, maybe say 'He's a Tesla engineer with a Tesla-confirmed badge on his X account' because it's just a red smudge in your screen shot.

-Crissa

 

[HellsNels]

I also think it could be kind of vestigial (or futureproofing?) when they thought they were going to do a double pack in the earlier days (2019-2021). The napkin math back then for the Roadster 2 and the CT pretty much came to needing 200 KWh for 500-600 miles. Whether it was an engineering decision for weight or product marketing for cost/benefit, or the development and density of the 4680s lagged, we ended up where we are now with the *potential* range extender and a suspiciously(?) hollowed pack.

I'm not really leaning any which way until the Munro full video comes out as Wes could also be straight up trolling.

 

[FutureTruck]

That's not what I would call confirmation, but it heavily implies the double-layer pack is plausible.

There might be other reasons they didn't do it, tho.

And instead of repeating his name, maybe say 'He's a Tesla engineer with a Tesla-confirmed badge on his X account' because it's just a red smudge in your screen shot.

-Crissa

That is fair as some people not familiar with Tesla may not know who Wes is. On a Tesla product forum I just assumed most would know who he was and fully describing each component would turn a short post into a book.
But you are correct. Wes Morrill is a hardware and development engineer who is fairly well known and works at Tesla who essentially confirmed the battery capacity for the CT was "half full"

 

[bongulous]

I mean if it is true that they could’ve potentially had 500+ miles in the CTs, they should’ve just released the initial AWDs this year and delayed the Beasts with the 500+ range in a later time. But this is implying they’re trying to be fair and not focusing fully on profits…

 

[Crissa]

Just the cells themselves would add another thousand pounds to the truck. Not sure how much payload it would take away, but that's still going to weigh more on the suspension.

That is fair as some people not familiar with Tesla may not know who Wes is. On a Tesla product forum I just assumed most would know who he was and fully describing each component would turn a short post into a book.
But you are correct. Wes Morrill is a hardware and development engineer who is fairly well known and works at Tesla who essentially confirmed the battery capacity for the CT was "half full"

I'm great with facts and orientations an relative positions.

I am terrible with names and faces.

I watch movies with a friend of mine. I can name half the cars. He can't find my car in a parking lot, and he rides in it each week. But on the other hand, he can name all the actors and I cannot recognize most of them.

I mean if it is true that they could’ve potentially had 500+ miles in the CTs, they should’ve just released the initial AWDs this year and delayed the Beasts with the 500+ range in a later time. But this is implying they’re trying to be fair and not focusing fully on profits…

Well, if they did that, they'd have an 8000 pound truck with people trying to do racing tricks with, instead of a 7000 pound truck. It'd definitely break more often.

If they can get past all the people doing stupid tricks with their trucks before adding the weight and cost, they probably should.

-Crissa

 

[Darth abbott]

I think you're going to be disappointed if you think non-FS Cybertrucks are going to come with additional batteries. I don't think we'll be seeing Cybertrucks with bigger battery packs/more range any time soon.

Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head! Tesla said they had the opportunity to make the truck have more range with a larger battery. But larger batteries equal more weight and they chose to have less weight with less range than more range with more weight. It wasn't about the amount of batteries they could stick into it they knew what they were doing right from the start. The only way the cybertruck is going to get more range is if they improve the efficiency of the cells themselves. Which they are working on. But Tesla also would still have the option to decrease the amount of cells as their efficiency increases which would increase their margins on the truck. If they double the size of the battery the cost of the battery will go up double. Everybody that thinks Tesla is going to magically increase the battery size to 600 mi and not pass on the cost is insane.

 

[Woodrick]

Just the cells themselves would add another thousand pounds to the truck. Not sure how much payload it would take away, but that's still going to weigh more on the suspension.


-Crissa

I believe that the weight also changes the registration classification in many states.

 

[Crissa]

I believe that the weight also changes the registration classification in many states.

Well, they can always nameplate the gross vehicle weight down but that would impact payload.

The current Foundation models are above the three-ton weight to classify as commercial vehicles already.

-Crissa

 

[Speedr]

I think there's a lot of assumptions. We'll know more in a few days once Monroe releases what they find in the pack. Do we even know the size of the cells in the Cybertruck? Are they 4680s? Or larger?

On conference calls, Tesla has specifically mentioned V2 cells that are physically larger (i.e. taller). If they're already taller, than I don't think there's a lot of room for improvement except for adding silicon (i.e. 10-20% more energy density and range). If they ARE 4680s, then between added height and silicon, you could see a meaningful increase.

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