Considering the price increase , the range decrease, the elimination of the range extender, and the power sharing not actually working i think it is a reasonable request - but i wouldn’t hold my breath.
Bravo! You do that.
You realized that you didn’t initially have it so you went through the steps of trading one in for another one that had it. Thats the difference and that’s what people need to do if it means that much to them.
Thanks Abilisk. That’s true of anything in life. There are people who go after what’s important to them and there are people who wait passively for things to come to them.
would be to sell the package in tiers based on charge costs.
Subscription model sales for supercharging would be much simpler and probably more profitable for Tesla than what they do now.Never say Never, even though there is "some" history of Tesla doing this in the past. When the Model 3 Performance first came out (lovingly known as the P3D+ because there was no badge on the car from Tesla) the price was in the $70K range because you had to add the $5k "Plus" package to get the bigger brakes, spoiler, etc. After a month or two Tesla just started including that on all of the Model 3 Performances being made and lowered the price of the car by effectively including that package for free. Owners who bought in the first couple of months were offered either a check for $5k or free lifetime supercharging. I took the check for $5k which paid off for me because in the 7 years I've owned that car I have not spent close to that in Supercharging costs.
All that being said Tesla even removed the $4k install credit from Cyberbeasts after a few months. I think a Cyberbeast owner who didn't get the $4k install credit might have a case for getting "something" in return, but I'm assuming Tesla must have altered the contracts/website to no longer show that perk so that people couldn't claim to be entitled to it. Otherwise, I would have thought we would have heard more of a stink on that. I think some owners were given vouchers for items in the Tesla Shop, while that isn't free Supercharging, it is something.
Tesla sells lifetime FSD for $8k, I would assume that Tesla could sell lifetime "free" supercharging for some amount of money if it wanted to. It might be interesting to see what people would, or wouldn't pay for a lifetime supercharging plan.
My suggestion to Tesla (because I'm a marketing genius the likes of Grok)
For example, for $5000 you could buy X number of kilowatt hours of electricity at .15/kWh, if during the lifetime of your vehicle you went over X number of kilowatt hours, any additional hours would be charged at .15/kWh, you are basically pre-paying at a locked in rate. This might be the Platinum Plan, or I guess if we are talking about electricity, it might be named the "High Voltage" plan.
If you didn't want that plan, maybe you purchase the $3000 mid tier plan consisting of Y number of kilowatt hours of electricity (Y is less than X in this example) and the rate is .25/kWh, same as the example above if you go over. This plan might be named the "Charge Up" plan.
Last, but not least, if you want the entry level plan you purchase it at $1,000 for Z number of kilowatt hours of electricity, and the rate is .35/kWh, and same if you go over. This plan might be named the "Watts Up" plan.
In all the instances you are pre-paying for the electricity but the more you pre-pay the lower the rate lock is. If the rates go up at superchargers a year from now and the national average is .40/kWh then you in essence are saving even more if you pre-pay, assuming you eventually use the electricity that you pre-paid for during the lifetime of your ownership.
From Tesla's perspective they don't lose money because everything has been prepaid at a rate that is higher than Tesla's actual cost for delivering that electricity at the time the plan is established. I am assuming that Tesla buys the electricity for less than what is charged at supercharging stations, but I don't know what the margins happen to be currently. Tesla also wins because technically there is never a lifetime "free" supercharging there is only lifetime rate lock, unless, of course, Tesla chooses to give away free lifetime supercharging as a perk to get people to buy cars but technically even then it is figured into the price of the car and Tesla is still not losing money, just not making as much as it could under my plans above.
From the customer's perspective they are able to rate lock their energy needs for the life of their vehicle, imagine if you could rate lock the price of gasoline per gallon for as long as you own your gas-powered car? Who wouldn't want to do that? These plans also make the transaction smoother as there is only 1 bill to pay, no increased credit card bills from the months where you decide to supercharge, such as on a summer vacation.
In Summary, I don't expect to be offered free lifetime supercharging just because I bought an early Cyberbeast. Yes, there were inconveniences for waiting on wheel covers and light bars and still waiting on Powershare to work with my powerwall and solar, so if Tesla wants to send free supercharging my way I wouldn't turn it down, but I'm not demanding it and don't expect it. I would be interested in pre-paying my supercharging though if I could lock in lower rates as my recent cross-country trip to the X Takeover showed me how expensive it can get in some areas.
Just my 2 cents. Feel free to tweet/X Elon my plan above for which, of course, I'm going to need royalties.
I really would like to see the 2nd half of your first sentence happen for those that are willing to pay. I had to pay for it on my 2013 purchase of the model s. As for the rest of the debate, I will pass, since arguments always do reflect different points of view.https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/3...ging-with-luxe-package-but-with-a-major-catch
If they’re not going to give it to us FS early adopters free; then they should 100% make it available to purchase for those of us who want it.
Especially with the way that they have narrowed it, as described in this article.
Again, the “I’m just amazed at the entitlement” brigade can kick rocks. I got what I paid for and bargained for— largely, but not entirely.
The extensive delays in receiving accessories, the delay in FSD, the delay in getting basic functionality like dumb summon, and other delays (whether they are reasonable explanations for them or not), are still meaningful failures to deliver on their part, and there’s no need to salt the wounds by putting more recent/brand new buyers in far better position than diehards.
The consequence is this; I’m not a fool so if this is really how Tesla is going to do it and how they want it to be. They will never, ever get me to early to adopt one of their vehicles again. That’s over. I will stand aside with my arms folded indefinitely.
That’s not how you build brand loyalty and it’s not how you build trust with your customer base. They’ve got more than an average number of detractors (for various reasons); pissing in the Wheaties of your most ardent supporters is a dumb idea.
Anyway, what I know is that they’re smarter than those of you who constantly express your hostility to the idea that anybody would even feel like they deserve something under the circumstances.
We’ll see what they do. But it’s time to do something. Each little slight makes it worse on a go-forward basis.
I’ve got about $350,000 worth of their product sitting on my property right now. I don’t have anything to prove. I will always vote with my wallet/feet. They can have more, or less of my money in the future— won’t make me no nevermind.
I think that foundation series cyber truck purchasers are in a unique situation from any other Tesla purchasers of all time. Early purchasers for Model S and even the initial Roadster have been given all kinds of concessions to encourage/and reward their early adoption.
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