FSD…..A VERY DANGEROUS SETTING

[Jhodgesatmb]

This issue has zero to do with the speed law. All of Tesla max speed controls allow you to exceed the speed limits if you so desire. It is about safety of a very distracting unsafe unnecessary alarm.


Where have I said anything about driving 100mph? I find it amazing how facts get so distorted.

Just guessing not quoting and it wasn’t about your position but about the whole thread. If people are passing you like you are standing still, or getting upset at your speed (passing right and left), then they are probably going 15-20 mph faster than you. If the speed limit is 85 then they are going 100. It wouldn’t be seen by many people as an issue if it was a few people here and there but if it is seen as a problem then it must be a significant portion of the drivers.

My position on all of this is easily seen by the following: I happen to be of the belief that FSD should obey all laws, and that if people want to drive over the speed limit by more than 10% they should be driving manually. But I am also of the belief that cars should be issuing speeding tickets to each other in a swarm-like manner. I wrote a patent application a few years ago to this effect and my company laughed at me; the world ‘wants’ to speed.

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[LDRHAWKE]

After driving 18 hours straight manly on FSD I learned a few things. I don’t think that some of you fully understand how FSD works….I didn’t.

If you set the FSD on STANDARD, it limits the speed to 65 miles an hour, you set it on HURRY it limits the speed to 75 miles an hour, if you set it on MAD MAX, it limits the speed 85 miles an hour.. You can set it on Mad Max and eventually you’ll reach the speed of 85 miles an hour even In a 60 mile an hour speed zone. TESLA’s not trying to control your speed.

This topic is not about TESLA controlling State speed. Regulations…..they are not. It is about an alarm that I believe dangerously blasts in your face when exceed the limit of FSD. It can just as easily be a less shocking dangerous blaring reminder on the screen , especially when cars have bunched up around you at 85 mph, that itself could cause an accident .

This topic has nothing to do with your exceeding State speed regulations. You are exceeding a Tesla FSD restriction and I believe the reminder can be done in the safer manner.

 

[eswimm]

Totally agree…..everyone is still missing the point I am trying to make. At 85 mph it doesn’t need to be a loud blaring alarm with the screen blinking red. There is no emergency from creeping up 1 or 2 mph trying to get out of traffic. It in itself can distracting and cause an accident. A simple reminder on the screen that you have broken the rule is all that is needed, if that? There is no emergency and a distracting blaring alarm.

If you're pressing the accelerator to increase speed above 85mph, you've overridden FSDs ability to slow down or stop. FSD is limited to 85mph, not 86 or 87. You made a conscious decision to override the speed and the car is telling you that you need to take over full control. The alternative, which would actually be dangerous, is that the car not allow you to accelerate over 85mph while FSD is active and require that you disengage it before accelerating. The current design is the safer option.

 

[LDRHAWKE]

Still missing the point…..I am talking about the first time it happens…..which could be the last time, if not corrected.

 

[REM]

Don't you have a smaller font you could use? ...

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[REM]

After driving 18 hours straight manly on FSD I learned a few things. I don’t think that some of you fully understand how FSD works….I didn’t.

If you set the FSD on STANDARD, it limits the speed to 65 miles an hour, you set it on HURRY it limits the speed to 75 miles an hour, if you set it on MAD MAX, it limits the speed 85 miles an hour.. You can set it on Mad Max and eventually you’ll reach the speed of 85 miles an hour even In a 60 mile an hour speed zone. TESLA’s not trying to control your speed.

This topic is not about TESLA controlling State speed. Regulations…..they are not. It is about an alarm that I believe dangerously blasts in your face when exceed the limit of FSD. It can just as easily be a less shocking dangerous blaring reminder on the screen , especially when cars have bunched up around you at 85 mph, that itself could cause an accident .

This topic has nothing to do with your exceeding State speed regulations. You are exceeding a Tesla FSD restriction and I believe the reminder can be done in the safer manner.

You are mistaken. The profiles are context aware to traffic conditions, weather conditions, traffic patterns, and other criteria.

Sloth: attempts to maintain exactly the speed limit or lower.
Chill: attemtps to stay the speed limit or slightly faster (context depending).
Standard: typically goes 5-7 over (context depending).
Hurry: typically goes 5-10 over (context depending).
Madmax: will go the fastest speed the FSD feels is safe (context depending).

Please stop yelling in the forum

 

[LDRHAWKE]

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I DO! …..don’t mean to hurt your imaginary hearing being so loud.

You are mistaken. The profiles are context aware to traffic conditions, weather conditions, traffic patterns, and other criteria.

Sloth: attempts to maintain exactly the speed limit or lower.
Chill: attemtps to stay the speed limit or slightly faster (context depending).
Standard: typically goes 5-7 over (context depending).
Hurry: typically goes 5-10 over (context depending).
Madmax: will go the fastest speed the FSD feels is safe (context depending).

Please stop yelling in the forum

Context Depending…..I‘m saying how it does work on our Interstate Highways……if you don’t drop it down to the next lower setting it will far exceed the speed limit and go to the maximum of that setting in a lower speed zone. Can you still hear me..

I can barely hear you…talk louder.

 

[SCTesla]

Still missing the point…..I am talking about the first time it happens…..which could be the last time, if not corrected.

No one is missing the point. You were scared and now you know.

Tesla has only made it more obvious due to NHTSA recalls, it's not going to get easier or better for legal and liability reasons. It is what it is.

Don't go above 85 with the pedal, period.

 

[REM]

I DO! …..don’t mean to hurt your imaginary hearing being so loud.


Context Depending…..I‘m saying how it does work on our Interstate Highways……if you don’t drop it down to the next lower setting it will far exceed the speed limit and go to the maximum of that setting in a lower speed zone. Can you still hear me..

I can barely hear you…talk louder.

I think at this point you are just going to continue being both rude and impossible to work with.

I should have known from the start, since most boisterous people who try shout everyone down are insufferable and are never open to being corrected by others.

 

[JCERRN]

Not that anybody is really interested, but I got my five star rating and disconnect from FSD for doing the following…… during my 18 Hour drive……
1. For exceeding FSD 85 speed limit., 2. Testing to see exactly how many miles per hour you have to exceed to disconnect FSD..3. Two for reading the map..and 5 the last one for my car sick dog resting his head on the center arm rest.

I can’t for full FSD to get rid of big brother.

Idk. I think that v14 is actually the least intrusive version so far since driver attention monitoring came online. i at most get “pay attention to the road” with slow flashing blue on my screen, that goes away the moment i refocus on the road. It will jump to the BEEP BEEP if you ignore it multiple times in a short period of time before it strikes you and disengages for the remainder of the trip. Imo, if you are missing that notification, you are using FSD irresponsibly and putting others on the road at risk. Remember, you are still DRIVING the vehicle, even if the software is ASSISTING you in doing so. You are still the responsible operator and the assistance system has limits. If you cant adhere to the system’s limits then you shouldnt be using it.

 

[AlDente]

I think at this point you are just going to continue being both rude and impossible to work with.

I should have known from the start, since most boisterous people who try shout everyone down are insufferable and are never open to being corrected by others.

Look, the poor guy is a "retired engineer"! He can't let all that OCD and anal retentiveness go to waste now can he ...

 

[Cybertrucker901]

Still missing the point…..I am talking about the first time it happens…..which could be the last time, if not corrected.

Dude, just turn off the FSD and crank that SOB up to a hunnert!

 

[JCERRN]

After driving 18 hours straight manly on FSD I learned a few things. I don’t think that some of you fully understand how FSD works….I didn’t.

If you set the FSD on STANDARD, it limits the speed to 65 miles an hour, you set it on HURRY it limits the speed to 75 miles an hour, if you set it on MAD MAX, it limits the speed 85 miles an hour.. You can set it on Mad Max and eventually you’ll reach the speed of 85 miles an hour even In a 60 mile an hour speed zone. TESLA’s not trying to control your speed.

This topic is not about TESLA controlling State speed. Regulations…..they are not. It is about an alarm that I believe dangerously blasts in your face when exceed the limit of FSD. It can just as easily be a less shocking dangerous blaring reminder on the screen , especially when cars have bunched up around you at 85 mph, that itself could cause an accident .

This topic has nothing to do with your exceeding State speed regulations. You are exceeding a Tesla FSD restriction and I believe the reminder can be done in the safer manner.

I mean… it is not unsafe to get an alert, even if it surprises you. You dont need to react in an unsafe way, like jerking the wheel or slamming the brake. If you do, thats on you. You can disengage fsd just as quickly by pressing the right scroll button. How you react to your vehicle and the road is on you. I tend to take an aviator approach to risk mitigation and problem solving.

hazard identification-> risk assessment-> risk mitigation.

 

[AlDente]

I mean… it is not unsafe to get an alert, even if it surprises you. You dont need to react in an unsafe way, like jerking the wheel or slamming the brake. If you do, thats on you. You can disengage fsd just as quickly by pressing the right scroll button. How you react to your vehicle and the road is on you. I tend to take an aviator approach to risk mitigation and problem solving.

hazard identification-> risk assessment-> risk mitigation.

I've always been a ready-fire-aim sort of guy. Married thrice ...

 

[AlDente]

This is one of the limitations of camera based imaging. Standard camera frame rates are 30 -60Hz, which directly equates to the distance of travel between frames - would be a fundamental limitation.

Would you trust yourself controlling a moving vehicle if you could only get an image every 20ft? Imaging driving using strobe lights instead of headlights - that is how FSD is seeing the world. By snapshots.

I did that in the late 60's ... kinda cool really.

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