Cybertruck T-Bone accident at high speed - damage photos

[Crissa]

I’m wondering why when I look up the NHTSA safety rating for the Cybertruck, I see it reported as not tested.

If someone knows the reason please share it.

Me and alot of other people give a significant amount of attention to Cybertruck accident photos, as we try to guess its safety rating for ourselves.

The absence of safety rails inside the doors remains a concern to me.

Why do you think door rails would do better than this?

They're a single line of protection, and when crushed, collapse more extremely than a plate of hardened steel. Because they're basically hardened steel in a tube.

Plate > tube in this instance.

There's no crash data because NHTSA doesn't publish or test vehicles until a certain number have been shipped - they only test 'mass market' vehicles... And weirdly are very slow with some, fast with others, because they choose based upon expected deliveries, not actual, while Tesla doesn't publish expected. So for instance Fords tend to get published before they hit the 50K threshold because Ford is always overestimating how many they'll delivery.

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-Crissa

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[Nolacyber]

Well after all the publicity about 30x cold role steel bullet proof etc. In my opinion the CT did absolutely terrible. Reminds of a tin can that collapsed. The other car seems to have faired better considering it hit a CT. I would have thought the other truck was ready for the scrap yard. I keep getting disappointed. First the extensive maintenance required to keep the metal from all the issues we have read about. Wheel covers were defective and caused damage to the tires, center hold covers still not out yet, and it certainly doesn't feel like I am getting anywhere near the distance per kWh. The vehicle was 4 years in development and tested all over the world...

Why are you a member of this forum?

 

[HaulingAss]

I am not, but as a fellow Cybertruck owner I feel equality entitled to share my opinion in the public domain. Everyone of course is welcome to disagree. I’ve seen my fair share of crashes and while I don’t know the speed of the other vehicle I can see the other vehicle did not suffer that much damage. Even the windshield is not broken. The front is a shock absorb area and it looks the way it’s supposed to so we can judge the impact by the rest of the car which seems mostly fine.

Huh? The other car collapsed all the way to the engine block, engine blocks and the attached transmissions don't compress at all in an accident. The Cybertruck was hit in the most vunerable spot, centered between the A and C pillars, only catching one out of three pillars, and there was very little intrusion into the passenger compartment. The battery frame rail looks almost entirely undamaged, and the B pillar looks like it barely deformed as well. Those doors resisted the bulk of the impact brilliantly. You have the right to share your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's informed or that I have to agree with it.

You lose all respect when you write, "I can see the other vehicle did not suffer that much damage.". That's laughable, it's as totaled as totaled can be! It used its engine and transmission as a battering ram, missing two out of three of the pillars, and the Cybertruck did what it was supposed to do, it prevented it from substantially entering the passenger cabin. That, my friend, is exactly what you want to see in such an unfortunately placed impact.

 

[CarMan ElecTruck]

I think the point is… it’s a tie. Neither clearly ‘won’ over the other…

despite the hype-oganda we were lead to believe

they both mitigated the impact as intended. But neither more stellar than the other.
But as we all know, hype sells…till it’s time to make an insurance claim.

 

[HaulingAss]

I think the point is… it’s a tie. Neither clearly ‘won’ over the other…

despite the hype-oganda we were lead to believe

they both mitigated the impact as intended. But neither more stellar than the other.
But as we all know, hype sells…till it’s time to make an insurance claim.

Don't be silly, one crash in the real world, without even knowing the weight or speed of the other vehicle, does not provide anywhere near enough info to draw such irresponsible conclusions. If any conclusion were to be drawn, I would say the construction of the Cybertruck looks very promising for increasing occupant safety.

 

[CarMan ElecTruck]

this thread is about a specific event.. one of which is similar to the most common crash test…

feel free to start a tally since you care so much…

 

[CarMan ElecTruck]

Real word crashes are not controlled.. unlike the tests.. or like the Faster than a Porsche while pulling a Porsche..

 

[Deleted member 17810]

The other car collapsed all the way to the engine block, engine blocks and the attached transmissions don't compress at all in an accident.

The crumple zones on the white vehicle worked as intended.


Looks to be a 2011-14 Ford Edge.

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/ford-edge-2010-suv-vs-tesla-cybertruck-2023-4-door-pickup/




I'm gonna say for a 13 years difference in safety improvements, that ford faired amazing well, compared to the damage on the CT.

 

[Stinky10r]

This post takes the blue ribbon for ridiculousness.

First, you display your ignorance by not knowing that NHTSA chooses the cars to test based primarily on the volume of cars on the road. They don't crash test low volume cars until their sales rise high enough to be significant. I believe they will eventually crash test it, but not for some time. They don't have the funding to test every model.

Secondly, you are concerned about the absence of safety rails inside the door when those are actually thin stamped steel sheet metal parts designed to give some structure to a thin door stamped out of soft, mild steel that is many times thinner than the ultra-hard 1.8 mm thick stainless steel door panels that are laser welded to inner stainless-steel stampings. The Cybertruck doors are much stronger than traditional doors that have stamped crash rails.

Third, you display a total lack of understanding of the metalurgy of the Cybertrucks panels while acting like you know what you are talking about. The difference in magnetism between the non-magnetic alloy before it is cold-worked and the magnetism present after the cold-working is not due to a change in the iron content, it is due to the manner in which the cold working rearranges the molecular structure of the alloy. No iron is added.

Fourth, you show concern that the deformed metal in the doors did not spring back. In what kind of metallurgical reality do doors "spring back" after being bent in an accident?

Your post is the height of arrogance (for pretending you know anything about about crash safety) and ignorance (for propogating so many ignorant beliefs).

Take your fake concern and shove it somewhere where people are actually guliable! Any journalist who picks up on your dumb ideas will simply be revealing themselves as the idiots they are. There is no way my F-150 would have held up to this kind of impact without turning into a half-moon shape. Did you even bother to look up how traditional pickups fare in high speed side impacts? No, I didn't think so. The Cybertruck's crash resistance was nothing short of very impressive.

Oh boy...nah I'm not going to reply in totality but I will say. You should double check your work, I know where you're wrong.

 

[HaulingAss]

Here's a side impact of a truck with a traditional anti-intrusion beam inside a door made of thin mild steel:

An irrational person would say, "Oh, wow, it looks like those new-fangled anti-intrusion beams don't work as well as all the hype claims!"

 

[Deleted member 17810]

Considered there's no permanent B Pillar in a tacoma, that's super impressive:

 

[HaulingAss]

Considered there's no permanent B Pillar in a tacoma, that's super impressive:

My point was that not knowing the specifics of the impact, the speed and mass of the impacting vehicle, the speed of the impacted vehicle, the loads in each vehicle, the angle of impact, etc, it's irrational to draw conclusions based on a photo the damage inflicted. If the impacing vehicle was empty and travelling only 20 mph, that would be terrible crash performance. But, if it was fully loaded and going 50 mph, it would be unheard of side impact protection.

You are proving my other point, that people are jumping to silly conclusions without having even the most basic of facts.

The other silly thing, is you are acting like the lack of a B pillar makes life-threatening damage look good. It's like saying, "Wow, that Cybertruck did really well, considering it doesn't have anti-intrusion door beams".

Let's avoid jumping to silly conclusions, we simply don't know enough.

 

[CyberGus]

I think the point is… it’s a tie.

 

[Alto]

Here's a side impact of a truck with a traditional anti-intrusion beam inside a door made of thin mild steel:

An irrational person would say, "Oh, wow, it looks like those new-fangled anti-intrusion beams don't work as well as all the hype claims!"

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