Tones of V4 Supercharger Working In Progress

[agordon117]

I cannot. To the best of my knowledge, no one has recieved the adapters that provide a socket connection instead of a plug. (32A limit likely precludes 14-50 though)
Also not sure if that unlocks the full 11.5kW...

https://www.tesla.com/powershare

Well you might be on to something with this one. The bed outlets combined don't reach 11.5kW, but if note 5 there is correct that there will be outlet adapters for the mobile powershare connector, I have to assume that means from the charge port. It also probably means that you are limited on the outlet adapters to 32A, but can draw 11.5kW from bed outlets + mobile connector/outlet adapters. Otherwise it's just a power strip in the bed outlets, so why involve the mobile powershare connector at all.

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[Obie_fl]

I suppose they could design it with a female pigtail instead of a male pigtail and have the MC smarts to know which pigtail is plugged in.

 

[mongo]

Well you might be on to something with this one. The bed outlets combined don't reach 11.5kW, but if note 5 there is correct that there will be outlet adapters for the mobile powershare connector, I have to assume that means from the charge port. It also probably means that you are limited on the outlet adapters to 32A, but can draw 11.5kW from bed outlets + mobile connector/outlet adapters. Otherwise it's just a power strip in the bed outlets, so why involve the mobile powershare connector at all.

Being able to power things 20 feet away with the vault closed is pretty handy.

 

[agordon117]

Being able to power things 20 feet away with the vault closed is pretty handy.

you could easily snake an extension cord through the seal on the toneau though.

 

[Darth abbott]

3 mins away from home. I am thinking not to install home wall charger any more.

Fast charging will wreck your battery, and cost well over double home charging.

 

[Crissa]

OK I stand corrected I thought the Mobile Connector was the same as my other MCs but I just checked the box you are correct it has V2L on it. I just find it difficult to believe Tesla would implement this. So if you can backfeed an outlet from the MC at 32A you are going to be feeding your entire house and the grid for that matter unless you do some manual breaker setup. Seems like a big liability to take on.

I have portable batteries that feed into specific circuits in my house. It's not that big of a liability - the battery feeds into the circuits and the battery charges itself separately.

Fast charging will wreck your battery, and cost well over double home charging.

It will not wreck your battery. This is a myth from non-Tesla testing.

It does cost more than home charging, though.

-Crissa

 

[mongo]

I suppose they could design it with a female pigtail instead of a male pigtail and have the MC smarts to know which pigtail is plugged in.

Yah, those are the outlet adapters (sockets) Tesla calls out. No live exposed pins.

 

[AlmostHuman]

Please don't use Superchargers as your primary charging source. Aside from clogging up the infrastructure, you really miss out on the EV experience.

Part of the great EV experience is never having to go anywhere to charge, always being full.

Depending on your average daily commute, you probably don't even need the gig solutions.

I've charged TWO Teslas by alternating access to a single 120V 15A plug for years.

I’d say that a single 15 amp plug is not enough for most people even for a single Tesla/EV. You are the exception to the rule. I’d not give people that stat as it is misleading on what the normal person will need for charging.

 

[agordon117]

I’d say that a single 15 amp plug is not enough for most people even for a single Tesla/EV. You are the exception to the rule. I’d not give people that stat as it is misleading on what the normal person will need for charging.

Fully agree with this. My commute is 14 miles round trip. Plus if I went somewhere for lunch or dinner that added another 5 miles. And in the winter in my model y, I could not keep up with 120v. Preheating the car plus driving with the climate on would consume enough range that I couldn't make up for it in 10 hours on 120v.

120v is not reasonable because if you do anything beyond the absolute shortest of commutes, it cannot replenish what you use in cold temps.

"But it worked for me". Cool, you are the exception.

 

[Obie_fl]

I have portable batteries that feed into specific circuits in my house. It's not that big of a liability - the battery feeds into the circuits and the battery charges itself separately.


It will not wreck your battery. This is a myth from non-Tesla testing.

It does cost more than home charging, though.

-Crissa

How do you isolate your circuits from the rest of the house or the grid for that matter.? I was thinking of the liability for Tesla. I would think in most setups a MC will be connected to the main panel of a house. I know a lot of people use their generators by back feeding but you have to do some manual configuring and it is not something the average person does. It also against code unless you have a lockout switch of some sort.

 

[Speedr]

3 mins away from home. I am thinking not to install home wall charger any more.

Just install the wall charger. You will NOT regret it!

It takes a little bit of time to get your head around not needing to go somewhere to "fill up", but once you do, you realize what a complete waste and distraction it's been for most of your life.

Waking up every morning with a full charge is the ultimate luxury experience! No one has ever said "gee, I miss going to the gas station"...

 

[Crissa]

How do you isolate your circuits from the rest of the house or the grid for that matter.?

The circuits that are powered by the battery have an isolated panel that plugs into the battery. I crawled under the house and redirected the wiring; it's not all that difficult, if you have access to the wires. If you think about it, circuits in a house are just extension cords rated for being in walls ^-^

The hard part is really the panels themselves. The only time I get an electrician is when I'm messing with the main panel.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

I just find it difficult to believe Tesla would implement this. So if you can backfeed an outlet from the MC at 32A you are going to be feeding your entire house and the grid for that matter unless you do some manual breaker setup. Seems like a big liability to take on.

That’s why you also need the PowerShare gateway to effectively control & account for the loads & their direction.

 

[HaulingAss]

Having the home charger will at least give you options, and convenience when needed. Also the slower charging rate is better for the battery longterm - less heat, less degradation.

There is zero evidence that battery longevity is improved by charging at less than 12 kW (240V 48 amps). Any way you slice it, Level 2 charging is trickle charging and doesn't build excessive heat in the battery. It's actually better to have more power for the BMS to use to heat or cool the battery when that's helpful to longevity.

 

[Woodrick]

Having the home charger will at least give you options, and convenience when needed. Also the slower charging rate is better for the battery longterm - less heat, less degradation.

The difference between ANY AC charging solution is 0.

And Supercharger charging is now showing the same thing, no damage.

Natter of fact, the cars with the most miles Supercharger multiple times a day.

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