Why shouldn't I Cancel My CT order and purchase the Chevy EV?

[SCTesla]

The Silverado is going to cost a lot more on a road trip using DCFC'ers, especially compared to a vehicle using Superchargers excliusively.

People regularly under-estimate the importance of the charge network, not just the reliability and placement, but also the average prices per kWh.

1000% it's going to cost a ton. The CT cost a lot more than my MS.

It will also chew through tires. We are going through them and will be in the CT, that thing weighs a lot more.

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[HaulingAss]

That chart was posted here many times, but I get about 468 wh/mi at 70mph in South Carolina. Seems common from the local CT chapter, but there are only 6 of us.

That's just dumb.

edit: I see you edited your post to say 75 mph. That will make quite a difference but it's still a bit higher than I see. There are lots of ways to make the steady state number worse, I tend to avoid them. I'm constantly surprised at how efficient the Cybertruck is when driven responsibly. And how fast the numbers can drop by having poor throttle control.

 

[SCTesla]

That's just dumb.

edit: I see you edited your post to say 75 mph. That will make quite a difference but it's still a bit higher than I see. There are lots of ways to make the steady state number worse, I tend to avoid them. I'm constantly surprised at how efficient the Cybertruck is when driven responsibly. And how fast the numbers can drop by having poor throttle control.

I blame TACC, which I use maybe 95% of the time...I'm just used to FSD.

My lifetime is 425 over 5,031 miles.

 

[HaulingAss]

I blame TACC, which I use maybe 95% of the time...I'm just used to FSD.

My lifetime is 425 over 5,031 miles.

My 3,000+ mile average, including 1000 miles off paved roads, hauling heavy loads, climbing steep mountain roads with the tires set to 35 psi, driving through sloppy, heavy snowpack, shredding twisties, doing braking tests from 100 mph, lots of full-throttle launches from pole position at stoplights spaced every mile or so on the State Highway, and plenty of other non-optimum usage is 391 Wh per mile.

 

[Dirt Worker]

The heart of the matter at choosing a Silverado was cost. For five years I planned to own a CT. It was a tough decision canceling my order. I just couldn't justify spending $100,000 on a CT when I could save $32,000 ($12,000 GM discount) on a very good pickup. The Cybertruck is still the best pickup ever made. Congratulations to the guys in line behind me.

 

[AlDente]

I rented a Chevy Silverado Electric WT (work truck) from Hertz this past weekend. It easily accommodated 4 adults and a toddler in his carseat. The interior is spartan in a cybertruck sort of way but is very comfortable with a huge interior, nice sized frunk and gets over 400 miles per charge. It's plenty fast and with that huge battery, the $70K Silverado EV is a noteworthy entry in the Electric Truck market.

 

[Stuck4ger]

For those of you wanting a Silverado, check out this fast charger bill and time on charge. It gets about 50% more range than the CT for the equivalent of two 0-100% CT charges.

 

[VAF84]

For those of you wanting a Silverado, check out this fast charger bill and time on charge. It gets about 50% more range than the CT for the equivalent of two 0-100% CT charges.

Desperately need some context here. The SER should max at 212kW max from dead to 100% for starters, he's got 238kW. Further, he had to have charged to 100% which means he got super fast charging (assume 350kW charger) to 80%, so how much time did he waste as the charging speeds stepped down as he approached 100?

An SER would get 352 of sweet spot range (10-80%), the CT would get 238mi. If you're on the road that's a week's worth of charging without hunting down a charger. It takes 36min for the SER to get those 352 miles.

Sure the CT is more efficient, but in some places and many scenario's range is more important.

Again, I don't know where this guy charged, but with my Tesla membership it would have cost $79 to go from 0-100% charge in my area. It'd be $119 at EA w/o a membership. Then again, I don't live on either of the expensive coastal regions.

 

[VAF84]

After a lot of deliberation I forwent my Tesla reservation and the other competitors for the Sierra Denali EV, and I absolutely love it. Nearly every competitor was primarily ruled out due to range, including the CT. I couldn't sit any longer while my newish truck continued depreciating and Tesla has not alluded to timing on the range extender. Sure they say Q2, but after they pushed from Q1. I wasn't going back to always stressing about when/where I'd need to stop frequently, so chose not take the risk. It also hurts more to be hit up for another $15k after you've initially purchased the vehicle. Rivian was out due to size.

Once I get caught up on work, I'll write up its own thread for whoever is interested. I typically do that and post it on the EV truck forums.

 

[Crissa]

Sure the CT is more efficient, but in some places and many scenario's range is more important.

More efficient means less time charging, and less paid per mile. So it's still important. It also means more range.

-Crissa

 

[VAF84]

More efficient means less time charging, and less paid per mile. So it's still important. It also means more range.

-Crissa

I agree it's important, just depends on scenario. Hard to quantify lower stress though. For example; when I picked up my new truck yesterday, I did not have to plan my 300 mile trip back. I did not have to stick to the speed limit. I overtook vehicles on two lane country roads without worrying about the impact to my range. Then I got to my destination late at night and did not have to worry about having to find a place to charge then or first thing in the AM because I had plenty of remaining range. Stress free. I watched my GPS remove minutes from my trip, which is a first in my EV experience. I'd always watch as my arrival time increased.

Also, I can now take round trips to nearby cities without fast charging. I do a round trip and the charge for cheap when I'm back home.

Further, I can now practically certify that when I work in rural areas without fast chargers, I can now take a trip once a week to the next city to charge, rather than every three days or so which adds to lost personal time.

Regarding charging time, it's twice as fast as my Lightning was, so for the same downtime I get near double the range. Efficiency is similar too. CT does make a bigger difference due to better aero/efficiency, but if you're not worried about cost to charge, then it's non-issue. I don't mind paying a little more for convenience.

 

[Crissa]

I agree it's important, just depends on scenario. Hard to quantify lower stress though. For example; when I picked up my new truck yesterday, I did not have to plan my 300 mile trip back.

But that's not true.

The less efficient your vehicle is, the more reduction in range you will see when driving faster. You will always see reduction in range from EPA when at freeway speeds.

And there's still no 'planning' so much as telling your truck your destination. It handles everything else.

The only time bigger batter is better is when you're powering something else.

-Crissa

 

[FarAway]

Ok, up to 10 pages of who GAS.

Let me sum it up for everyone...... Buy what you want, want what you buy!

Good luck.

 

[VAF84]

But that's not true.

The less efficient your vehicle is, the more reduction in range you will see when driving faster. You will always see reduction in range from EPA when at freeway speeds.

And there's still no 'planning' so much as telling your truck your destination. It handles everything else.

The only time bigger batter is better is when you're powering something else.

-Crissa

I think you're missing the point. Let me simplify. I want to have the longest amount of untethered driving time as possible between forced connections for charging, regardless of cost and efficiency. Aka...prior LER ...yesterday's trip required going speed limit and 2 stops. With my BAB (Big Ass Battery) I can go at the speed I want with no stops. It's that simple. How far can I realistically drive highway speeds before stopping...("320" range vehicle) 240miles, BAB 400 miles. That's it, it's all that matters. How far can I tow without stopping... (Lightning/CT) 86 miles, BAB 130 miles. I want to go to Durango Co, in CT 5 stops (+2hr 52 min), BAB 3 stops (+2hr 10 min); per ABRP.

The convenience factor is undeniable. Get big range to choose when to plug in for a longer time without interrupting driving activities. Yes, those numbers can be improved by accommodating the vehicle. My point is BAB EV'S don't make you do that. Queue the "excuse, excuse, excuse, but if you just slow down you can go farther". You shouldn't have to slow down, and you probably don't want to of your own accord, lol. BAB is to drive how one wants to drive without compromises and save time and go further. Otherwise, there's the ICE. Lot's of great EV's like the CT, when they get BAB's I'll shop them again.

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