$500 quote to install Powershare 3V Gateway + Wall Connector

[GatorCyber]

My electrician said he could have it done by lunch for $500. But Tesla won't give me the equipment and I can only get the equipment promised in my order if I pay the one authorized company $3,000 plus $500 for 'travel' as I live a county over.
Tesla is handling this poorly. Any licensed electrician can follow a wire diagram and install this, there is nothing special about it. I think Tesla is getting a kickback because I can buy the equipment and get it installed for less than the 'authorized' installer. Someone needs to tweet at Elon. Maybe he will see how his 'authorized' Tesla installer tried to rob Joe T and ship us what was promised. The liability is on the installer, not Tesla, so that's not a legit excuse.

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[Jhodgesatmb]

My electrician said he could have it done by lunch for $500. But Tesla won't give me the equipment and I can only get the equipment promised in my order if I pay the one authorized company $3,000 plus $500 for 'travel' as I live a county over.
Tesla is handling this poorly. Any licensed electrician can follow a wire diagram and install this, there is nothing special about it. I think Tesla is getting a kickback because I can buy the equipment and get it installed for less than the 'authorized' installer. Someone needs to tweet at Elon. Maybe he will see how his 'authorized' Tesla installer tried to rob Joe T and ship us what was promised. The liability is on the installer, not Tesla, so that's not a legit excuse.

But it is often the electrician that is doing the robbing. Maybe Tesla is doing the best it can to safeguard its customers but whenever you add overhead onto any program you also add costs. I don't know if there is a single solution that will meet everyone's needs. Gee, I almost sounded diplomatic there. I better soak my head in cold water

 

[Woodrick]

My electrician said he could have it done by lunch for $500. But Tesla won't give me the equipment and I can only get the equipment promised in my order if I pay the one authorized company $3,000 plus $500 for 'travel' as I live a county over.
Tesla is handling this poorly. Any licensed electrician can follow a wire diagram and install this, there is nothing special about it. I think Tesla is getting a kickback because I can buy the equipment and get it installed for less than the 'authorized' installer. Someone needs to tweet at Elon. Maybe he will see how his 'authorized' Tesla installer tried to rob Joe T and ship us what was promised. The liability is on the installer, not Tesla, so that's not a legit excuse.

It's honestly a little hard to believe that $500 would cover everything that needs to be included. That sounds as if they think that they are just installing a charging port. There's a lot more to it.

Especially with A/C units in Florida.

 

[GatorCyber]

What more is there to AC in Florida? They are installing the gateway between the meter and panel, which on most homes here are opposite of each other on an exterior garage wall. 2-4 hours labor, tops.
This electrician also wires my new construction homes which includes connecting the panel to the meter. It's not rocket science nor is there any special liability involved any more so than wiring a new home to a new service meter.

 

[GatorCyber]

But it is often the electrician that is doing the robbing. Maybe Tesla is doing the best it can to safeguard its customers but whenever you add overhead onto any program you also add costs. I don't know if there is a single solution that will meet everyone's needs. Gee, I almost sounded diplomatic there. I better soak my head in cold water

I think it's rather suspicious that everybody all over the country is getting a quote near the $4k allowance for Cyberbeast. Even if it's a full day work, this is more than most attorney's bill.

 

[Crissa]

I think it's rather suspicious that everybody all over the country is getting a quote near the $4k allowance for Cyberbeast. Even if it's a full day work, this is more than most attorney's bill.

Three guys, equipment, travel... It adds up quick if they want a decent paycheck to cover their costs.

-Crissa

 

[Woodrick]

What more is there to AC in Florida? They are installing the gateway between the meter and panel, which on most homes here are opposite of each other on an exterior garage wall. 2-4 hours labor, tops.
This electrician also wires my new construction homes which includes connecting the panel to the meter. It's not rocket science nor is there any special liability involved any more so than wiring a new home to a new service meter.

The power draw of most A/C units, especially the starting current can be beyond the capabilities of the vehicle.

If you listen to all of the manufacturers slicks about P2H, they tend to leave out the fine print.

There's pretty much no way that the truck could consistently power my house, portions, yes, but not the entirety.

 

[brur]

yes, I can't figure out if the tesla price includes a battery back up panel. which is a pricey operation.

 

[CyberGus]

yes, I can't figure out if the tesla price includes a battery back up panel. which is a pricey operation.

What is a "battery back up panel"?

There's pretty much no way that the truck could consistently power my house, portions, yes, but not the entirety.

Every PowerShare install will be different. The installer will need to calculate the amps and make sure the 11kW from the truck is sufficient, or else some circuits will need to be omitted. There's also the UWC, which must be wired directly to the Gateway, unlike a regular wall connector that could just hang off any capable circuit.

It does seem like they are using Prix Fix pricing though, since we've seen very, very straightforward installs that were priced in the same general ballpark.

 

[Daniel Smith]

What more is there to AC in Florida? They are installing the gateway between the meter and panel, which on most homes here are opposite of each other on an exterior garage wall. 2-4 hours labor, tops.
This electrician also wires my new construction homes which includes connecting the panel to the meter. It's not rocket science nor is there any special liability involved any more so than wiring a new home to a new service meter.

 

[brur]

What is a "battery back up panel"?



Every PowerShare install will be different. The installer will need to calculate the amps and make sure the 11kW from the truck is sufficient, or else some circuits will need to be omitted. There's also the UWC, which must be wired directly to the Gateway, unlike a regular wall connector that could just hang off any capable circuit.

It does seem like they are using Prix Fix pricing though, since we've seen very, very straightforward installs that were priced in the same general ballpark.

all the circuits in a panel are rarely used at the same time. So couldn't the homeowner be wise enough to not use too many electrical drains at the same time?

"battery back up panel" was an inappropriate way of describing a power panel for the truck's battery to power that was separate from the main panel.

 

[MeadowShade]

Well, here’s my thing. NOW Tesla seems to be headed toward giving us $700 INSTEAD of the PowerShare equipment. And here is the kicker, my SC told me today that they will NOT install unless a powerwall is already installed or part of the package!
Whaaaaaaat?
The offer was PowerShare. You need a the 3v gateway and a wall charger. No need for a powerwall but IF YOU HAVE A POWERWALL, no need for gateway if you have latest powerwall.
Right?

I think what we get for $20,000 is FSD when it is ready and the rest are Chotskys. White dash. Woah! Plastic tray and decider holy cow. FS badge. Omg.

what are the premium accessories? Anybody know. Oh yeah. 4 wheels and tires. But wheel covers. Not today!

FSD is 8k now. The rest is either standard or plastic that costs $0.50 per truck. The value that was FS has faded to a bait and switch to shortlyland.

 

[Alan]

No

 

[Wonderful]

I am 100% assuming and I have zero proof of this. But I assumed Electricians to become an "Authorized" installer for Tesla probably have to pay an upfront cost or part of their price back to Tesla. Think of it like Dental/Medical insurance in and out of network. The Dentist/Doctor of an in network provider has to give money back to the insurance company(Write-off) so you get to pay less at the office and are encouraged to see them. But if you go to an out of network provider their fee's may be less but you'll have to pay them more because your insurance doesn't have that magic write off the provider has to give back.
Also another example, sticking to the field I know. Dentist/Doctors have to pay $X amount to a company that provides the product in order to be able to prescribe it to their patients. Vivos is a sleep apnea device(yes there are copy cats), but Dentist have to pay $40,000 to Vivos before they can prescribe one device to their patient. Which could drive up the cost of that sleep device vs using a less tested copy cat device.

 

[GatorCyber]

Three guys, equipment, travel... It adds up quick if they want a decent paycheck to cover their costs.

-Crissa

Three guys? For what? This isn't a road crew.
My panel is opposite my meter on the same wall. Mount the gateway, pull the wire, mount the charger, screw down the terminals and you're done. I don't need to pay 2 extra guys to watch.

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