Another setback for the Cybertruck

[dalton108]

Don’t really care about the visual upgrades. Only FSD. Truck still has the hardware to work. Don’t see why it wouldn’t improve. We still have the next gen tech.

Current gen. HW5 is next gen.

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[syburtruck]

This is synthetic/manipulated content.

The rDNA GPU is shared across all HW4 families and for what it's worth, runs Unreal just fine- if they were to ever use it. (Sony uses it in the PlayStation 5...)

The rumor is circulating based on someone sleuthing in the 2025.20 update -- finding references to the Unreal code in the update targeted for the S and X platform. From there the Internet did it's thing.

 

[Ed243]

The S and X have a second display to generate. So there's that.

 

[Beetlebug62]

It's becoming pretty evident that Tesla really doesn't care nor places priority anymore on the Cybertruck. Had the sales matched the pre-orders, I feel like we would all be in a different boat; enjoying all the benefits that other models get.

1) FSD is fundamentally a joke - either gets uncomfortably close to other vehicles, curbing, keeps hugging either the left/right part of the lane (instead of being dead center), and/or runs the wipers dry on a sunny day. In some safety critical situations, it just turns into the wrong side of the road / divider.
2) No Actual Smart Summon - not even providing users with a dumb summon in the meantime until they can figure out how to implement ASS - I have a feeling this will never come and will be cancelled like Autopilot.
3) Cancelled Autopilot - Tesla completely gave up on their Autopilot venture for non-FSD users, which is huge given every Tesla to date used to have the basic Autopilot feature.
4) and now this: S and X will be getting an overhaul when it comes to the next revision of FSD. Thanks to their vehicles having a dedicated GPU, it will be using Unreal Engine moving forward to push the next generation of FSD Visualizations - similar to 10.10 software seen in the CyberCab. For the longest time, especially given the price of the Foundation Series, I thought the Cybertruck will at least share the same processor as the S and the X - not the 3 and Y. However, Grok just confirmed the Cybertruck only has 2 TFlops vs the dedicated GPU S and X have at 10 TFlops therefore it won't be able to ever run Unreal Engine.

If only the Cybertruck had sold well... none of us would be in this situation.

This self-loathing sadness is funny. My Model 3 did all that FSD nonsense when it first got the neural-net based version. It drifted right, it turned down the wrong lane, it got too close to curbs and ran over medians.

It got better, and so will the CT. It's too different in size to code-share the same FSD as the SXY3 vehicles, so it's at a development disadvantage. Use your CTs to get more video into the learning database.

 

[thetuxcat]

I just got back from a 1,000 mile road trip. FSD did over 99% of it. It went into the wrong lane once after exiting the freeway onto a two-way service road and slightly swiped a curb with its rear wheel once on a left turn. I reported both incidents.

On the way back, it exited on the two-way service road and got into the proper lane. Maybe it’s a coincidence, maybe they fix reported errors really quickly, but one thing we know for sure is that CT has its own FSD stack. It takes all of us to make it great, just like it took A LOT of sexy car drivers to make all of them great.

Don’t give up on CT. Don’t fail it, and don’t fail the rest of your brethren who drive one. It’ll get there if we all pitch in.

I believe in Musk and he will get the CT in order.

 

[dalton108]

This self-loathing sadness is funny. My Model 3 did all that FSD nonsense when it first got the neural-net based version. It drifted right, it turned down the wrong lane, it got too close to curbs and ran over medians.

It got better, and so will the CT. It's too different in size to code-share the same FSD as the SXY3 vehicles, so it's at a development disadvantage. Use your CTs to get more video into the learning database.

What’s funny to me is how some of you think you’re in a position to police how somebody else feels about their $100,000 purchase. That’s funny! [Not funny, “ha ha;”funny like — “cuckoo.”]

The Cybertruck is a laggard in many respects. This is undeniable and if this is your only Tesla you’re probably going to feel a way about it.

I’ve been on FSD since the first public beta. Yes, it’s going to ebb and flow. That’s not the same thing as a vehicle that was sold as the “pinnacle flagship” not having the same basic features as an entry-level Tesla.

You’re cool with that? Great! What I want to know is why some of you think that somebody else having a different opinion about their vehicle has anything to do with you?

The fucking temerity!

“Self loathing?” I think that’s your problem— you are not your car! Or maybe you are man; but I sure as shit ain’t and I don’t think anybody healthy is. Get a grip!

 

[devdrone6]

1. Not a set back as things are still being improved. I have had issues with FSD as well, but after around 8-10k miles on FSD, I have only had a handful of issues. Curb once, yes once, I do think the CT gets very close but has only driven over one. Wrong lane - a couple times but corrected itself and happened where there was no oncoming traffic. So there are still issues, and updates are still coming, so it is not a setback.

2. No ASS is not a setback unless it was promised and then it is abandoned. If it is abandoned due to safety then I am ok with it.

3. Visualization to me doesn’t matter because my brain and eyes visualize great when I drive and not look at the screen but instead use the windshield. The unreal engine integration does not make FSD better, it is a ridiculous point.

 

[shopaholic]

May be the rear wheel steering is adding an extra dose of monkey wrench in optimising the FSD code that’s CT specific, compared to the others?

 

[dalton108]

1. Not a set back as things are still being improved. I have had issues with FSD as well, but after around 8-10k miles on FSD, I have only had a handful of issues. Curb once, yes once, I do think the CT gets very close but has only driven over one. Wrong lane - a couple times but corrected itself and happened where there was no oncoming traffic. So there are still issues, and updates are still coming, so it is not a setback.

2. No ASS is not a setback unless it was promised and then it is abandoned. If it is abandoned due to safety then I am ok with it.

3. Visualization to me doesn’t matter because my brain and eyes visualize great when I drive and not look at the screen but instead use the windshield. The unreal engine integration does not make FSD better, it is a ridiculous point.

“A setback is a reversal, delay, or hindrance that interrupts progress toward a goal. In legal, business, or project contexts, it refers to an event or circumstance that causes a decline from a previously achieved position or forces a return to an earlier stage of development.”

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[vandytom]

Current gen. HW5 is next gen.

I meant 48v and steering. Hardware 4 still good.

 

[vandytom]

May be the rear wheel steering is adding an extra dose of monkey wrench in optimising the FSD code that’s CT specific, compared to the others?

Fair to assume. It’s the only one of its kind.

 

[jahansolu]

I've been reporting the same lane issue at the same highway exit for 8 months. They've never fixed it. I'm convinced using the microphone to report an issue has zero effect.

The voice feedback is purely a placebo effect - it's to make the user believe that their feedback is being validated. The real feedback button is the one that @DirtyTesla or @ChuckCook have with the "snapshot" tool. The snapshot tool gets sent to actual engineers to evaluate. The voice feedback, if not placebo, at best is transcribed and perhaps categorized based on key words a person says for the Neural Net to train on. For months now, I have been trying to submit the fact that Canadian traffic lights operate much faster timing than American standard - from green to yellow to red. But still the truck passes a yellow light which quickly becomes a red making it seem like I just ran through a red light.

 

[cyberdock]

It's becoming pretty evident that Tesla really doesn't care nor places priority anymore on the Cybertruck. Had the sales matched the pre-orders, I feel like we would all be in a different boat; enjoying all the benefits that other models get.

1) FSD is fundamentally a joke - either gets uncomfortably close to other vehicles, curbing, keeps hugging either the left/right part of the lane (instead of being dead center), and/or runs the wipers dry on a sunny day. In some safety critical situations, it just turns into the wrong side of the road / divider.
2) No Actual Smart Summon - not even providing users with a dumb summon in the meantime until they can figure out how to implement ASS - I have a feeling this will never come and will be cancelled like Autopilot.
3) Cancelled Autopilot - Tesla completely gave up on their Autopilot venture for non-FSD users, which is huge given every Tesla to date used to have the basic Autopilot feature.
4) and now this: S and X will be getting an overhaul when it comes to the next revision of FSD. Thanks to their vehicles having a dedicated GPU, it will be using Unreal Engine moving forward to push the next generation of FSD Visualizations - similar to 10.10 software seen in the CyberCab. For the longest time, especially given the price of the Foundation Series, I thought the Cybertruck will at least share the same processor as the S and the X - not the 3 and Y. However, Grok just confirmed the Cybertruck only has 2 TFlops vs the dedicated GPU S and X have at 10 TFlops therefore it won't be able to ever run Unreal Engine.

If only the Cybertruck had sold well... none of us would be in this situation.

Not in my case. We had model X prior, FSD has been incredible. Not always to my liking, and sometimes makes me nervous like stopping too close and too tight left turns etc, but I am getting accustomed to it. 99% driving is done by FSD. They should ditch model X, and CT based SUV. Will buy in a heartbeat

 

[Ri22]

FSD and Autosteer (early autopilot?) were more usable IMO on my 18' M3 with the old 2.5 computer. Besides the lane wandering issues I've had FSD in CT go 58Mph on a completely empty Interstate (75MPH speed limit, Was set to hurry with a max of 85). Let it crawl for 15 miles or so and I couldn't take it anymore. It also likes the left lane for cruising not just passing. Seems to have taken a few steps back. For me it's a worthless feature, which is beat by my 02' Toyota Land Cruiser's cruise control.

 

[TexasRaider]

I just got back from a 1,000 mile road trip. FSD did over 99% of it. It went into the wrong lane once after exiting the freeway onto a two-way service road and slightly swiped a curb with its rear wheel once on a left turn. I reported both incidents.

On the way back, it exited on the two-way service road and got into the proper lane. Maybe it’s a coincidence, maybe they fix reported errors really quickly, but one thing we know for sure is that CT has its own FSD stack. It takes all of us to make it great, just like it took A LOT of sexy car drivers to make all of them great.

Don’t give up on CT. Don’t fail it, and don’t fail the rest of your brethren who drive one. It’ll get there if we all pitch in.

Agreed.

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