Article: CyberTruck has a HUGE problem, needs a FULL REDESIGN...

[fritter63]

Rather than being an objective observation about the CT, it’s abundantly clear that the author of this article is making many personal attacks on Musk and Tesla in general. After doing that, it brings into question how objective this person is. I personally believe that Tesla will overcome the issues that they’re having, and will make the CT a success.

yeah, a few ad hom attacks in there!

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[CyberGus]

Obviously its not designed to do that, but its a liability thing. I bet they are doing this as a precautionary things. The doors are fairly obvious if they arent closed and latched. The hood probably not so much. could be popped and not latched but still appear closed and if the hood opens at 65 mph on the freeway its likely to do some damage.

By that logic, they should tape the wheels in case the lugs aren't tight?

My best wild-ass guess is based on the taping of the seams: They discovered that an ill-fitting seal is causing leaks into the frunk, and this is a short-term remediation until updated parts are fabricated.

 

[anionic1]

By that logic, they should tape the wheels in case the lugs aren't tight?

My best wild-ass guess is based on the taping of the seams: They discovered that an ill-fitting seal is causing leaks into the frunk, and this is a short-term remediation until updated parts are fabricated.

the lug nuts have much lower probability of falling off during transport. all it takes for the hood to fly up is one latch either accidentally opened or left open. Someone would have to completely fail to install all the lug nuts on a wheel which would very likely be noticable during loading.

 

[Crissa]

The frunks are probably taped shut because the shipping company is taking some responsibility for the vehicles, and the frunk is something that could come open and cause damage. The tires, doors, windows, less so. So they do what they can to minimize the possible damage and tape down the load.

It's just probably a matter of who's holding the liability.

-Crissa

 

[CyberGus]

The frunks are probably taped shut because the shipping company is taking some responsibility for the vehicles, and the frunk is something that could come open and cause damage. The tires, doors, windows, less so. So they do what they can to minimize the possible damage and tape down the load.

It's just probably a matter of who's holding the liability.

-Crissa

What about damage caused by the tape? ?

 

[Warbird]

The article discusses serious problems with Tesla's Cybertruck design that may necessitate a complete redesign. Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO, expressed concerns about the aesthetics of the Cybertruck's body, which includes misaligned doors and uneven surfaces due to its angular design. Musk's demand for extreme precision in manufacturing, comparable to LEGO-like accuracy, is challenging given the nature of the vehicle's design. The article points out that achieving such precision is impractical for production as it doesn't consider factors like thermal expansion and contraction during manufacturing and operation.
The Cybertruck's unconventional design has led to significant challenges, including difficulties in achieving the required dimensional accuracy, potential problems with crash and pedestrian impact regulations, and issues with panel stamping due to its flat surfaces. The article suggests that the design may lead to difficulties in repair and maintenance, as imperfections in the stainless steel body can't be easily fixed.
This article also highlights broader concerns about Tesla's quality control. The company's vehicles have faced numerous quality issues, resulting in poor performance ratings, lawsuits, and criticism. The Cybertruck's design flaws are seen as emblematic of a larger trend within Tesla, and if not addressed, these issues could overshadow the company's technological advancements and quality.
The article concludes by suggesting that the Cybertruck's manufacturing challenges could lead to limited production or a significant design change. It raises questions about the necessity of another heavy truck on the road with a design that some experts find cold and unappealing.

-ChatGPT


So basically a bashing article similar to ones on Model S, Model X, Model 3 and Model Y..... its like mainstream fake news. When you disrupt, expect to have stones thrown at you. Every legacy OEM would (and will) die for what Tesla has accomplished.

@newwave1331 thank you for this! So great to have ChatGPT summarize this article in such an un-biased way. We need more of this kind of neutrality in the world.

 

[jerhenderson]

RE: The Article and the Author..... may I say, what a douche bag hit piece?

it makes a Trump speech sound like Shakespeare.

 

[fritter63]

But WHY did you 'just leave it here'? Do you believe them? And if you do, WTF are you doing on this forum?

Woah, @Jhodgesatmb , let's take big CHILL PILL here before you go off any further ....

1) I guess you've never paid attention to my posts to realize how f*cking pro Tesla I am....

2) I guess you've never paid attention my f*cking PROFILE picture that shows TWO model 3's sitting in my garage (one of which will soon be traded in for a CT at reservation number 44K...

3) I guess you've never heard of the "I'm just going to leave this here" meme.... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I'm just going to leave this here

?

Have a nice day, find something else to take out your bad day on!

 

[MiguelAznar]

Of course, it needs a "FULL REDESIGN" ...

They forgot to integrate Shields, a Cloaking Generator, Wilson Hover Conversion and SpaceX Option Packages

- ÆCIII

By the time they build 400,000+ and call my number, I trust they’ll have integrated the Heisenberg Compensators

Energize!

 

[FutureBoy]

In my reading of the article I find:

1. The main point of the article is that the Cybertruck needs to be redesigned because of its uneven/misaligned looks. And Musk knows it as per his email about the build tolerances.

Musk’s observation refers to the problems in the body of the Cybertruck, which include misaligned doors and uneven surfaces that make the car look wobbly, weird, and very unlike the clean angled renders Tesla has presented over the years. It’s a mess that underscores the inherent challenges of the Cybertruck's unique design.

2. As per various quotes from Adrian Clarke the root of the problem is that the straight edges will not be aligned correctly due to the way cars are manufactured.

Clarke explained that car panels are made by stamping them with big metal hydraulic presses: “They always have an amount of curves in them because they have to be able to hold the shape when the part comes out of the press.” But if you have a dead flat panel, it doesn’t work. “It’s going to vibrate and they’re going to have massive problems stamping those panels and having them keep their shape.”

The big problem here is that what is being described in this article has nothing to do with how the Cybertruck is being manufactured. With 3mm stainless steel body panels, Tesla is not able to use hydralic presses to shape the parts. And since the techniques that Adrian Clarke and others have no application to the Cybertruck, their views and opinions have no bearing on the probable outcome. In fact even the article has some question about the predicted outcome:

It’s yet to be seen if the changes in the frame and fake exoskeleton were caused by other potential manufacturing problems predicted by Clarke

Beyond this argument, the article just spews as many misleading, false, or outright hallucinatory accusations that can be found about Tesla itself and its manufacturing, software, market approach, past quality, etc.

But overall, the author and those that contributed do not like the look of the Cybertruck. The article ends with:

in the precise, micron-level accurate words of Frank Stephenson—one of the most influential automotive designers of our time—is cold, sterile, and almost repulsive.

Thing is, there are respected designers that I bet would have a completely different opinion. For instance Syd Mead.

 

[fritter63]

The frunks are probably taped shut because the shipping company is taking some responsibility for the vehicles, and the frunk is something that could come open and cause damage. The tires, doors, windows, less so. So they do what they can to minimize the possible damage and tape down the load.

It's just probably a matter of who's holding the liability.

-Crissa

here’s the thing, I’m guessing a huge majority of any airflow over the frunks is blocked by the semi cab that’s pulling them…..

 

[HaulingAss]

well if he does lurk here, he should be embarrassed about himself.

Judging by the article, the auther is probably too dumb to be embarrassed by it.

 

[HaulingAss]

And I also hear approx 5% cancellation rate. So likely up in line a bit more as well.

Cancellation rate will be far higher than 5%, that's just a given in a situation like this. I don't know what the Model 3 cancellation rate was, but I'm sure it was a lot more the 5%.

 

[HaulingAss]

Thing is, there are respected designers that I bet would have a completely different opinion. For instance Syd Mead.

Yeah, but if you had seen the mostly hideous auto designs penned by Frank Stephenson, you would be glad he found it repulsive!

 

[FutureBoy]

Cancellation rate will be far higher than 5%, that's just a given in a situation like this. I don't know what the Model 3 cancellation rate was, but I'm sure it was a lot more the 5%.

Based on all the people on this forum that have mentioned they might not survive to see the delivery of their Cybertruck, it's possible that there will be about 5% of Cybertruck preorders that are never canceled or get turned into an order. It's not just people that are thinking their time is nigh. Stuff happens and people of any age can become unresponsive.

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