Closeup Cybertruck BIW body in white shots from GFTX [7/14/23]

[futureproof]

The order of assembly is different than what is shown.

Thanks, yes, I think that is the key point I was missing that you and others were kind enough to clarify.

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[LDRHAWKE]

From Teslarati…


https://www.teslarati.com/leaked-tesla-cybertruck-frame-image-shows-disappointing-design-detail/

that could be a temporary jig for alignment and assembly.

 

[CYBRSMTH]

That section in back looks pretty permanent, and it doesn’t look good for a midgate, bed access, or even a retractable window. Is that your read?

Yeah, I think the midgate is dead. Not having bed access via a retractable window is weird. All of that space must be to house the tonneau cover. That’s the priority with this iteration.

 

[CYBRSMTH]

Some version of how it would be possible - and again, largely motivated by the fact that between the alpha and beta prototypes the rear window was changed from being perpendicular to the ground, to instead angled backwards at roughly the same angle as the bed bulkhead

sketch obviously a cartoon (not a blueprint)

So there is vault access from the cabin, or is this just speculation?

 

[cvalue13]

So there is vault access from the cabin, or is this just speculation?

it’s speculation about the rear window being capable of rolling down. We don’t know if it will roll down. Some of us hope.

Even assuming it rolls down, since that rear window is maybe 10” tall, and obscured at its 1/3rds by wide headrests, you be the judge if that would be sufficient “access” for your use cases.

 

[CYBRSMTH]

it’s speculation about the rear window being capable of rolling down. We don’t know if it will roll down. Some of us hope.

Even assuming it rolls down, since that rear window is maybe 10” tall, and obscured at its 1/3rds by wide headrests, you be the judge if that would be sufficient “access” for your use cases.

I hate to be a party pooper, but I’m going to say no vault access from the cabin. The automatic tonneau cover lays in that back wall area. I don’t think they’d want to overcomplicate things or breech the integrity of the vault.

Question, when the tonneau cover is fully deployed can you see into the vault from the cabin’s window or is it obscured by the tail end of the cover?

 

[cvalue13]

Question, when the tonneau cover is fully deployed can you see into the vault from the cabin’s window or is it obscured by the tail end of the cover?

From cabin’s rear window, you can see into the closed vault.

 

[CYBRSMTH]

From cabin’s rear window, you can see into the closed vault.

I do hope the rear window comes down. That way you can run the AC while you’re camping in the back.

 

[JBee]

I do hope the rear window comes down. That way you can run the AC while you’re camping in the back.

Only if you are vertically challenged enough to fit. Or horizontally as the case may be. The bed design means you have to have the mattress on the floor to get full length, and then have your head under the tailgate part, so you can put your feet under the midgate. Otherwise you bump your head when you get up. Not really comfy for two, but will be easier on a diagonal for one person.

I'm hoping there's dedicated, console controlled air vents to the rear bed for HVAC with its own temperature control. You could then make the back bed into a fridge when you go hunting and gathering at the supermarket. Or just run the front or back depending on where you are in the car.

 

[cvalue13]

I do hope the rear window comes down. That way you can run the AC while you’re camping in the back.

will be interesting to see

I’ve been in quad cab trucks that don’t have vents in the back seat, they’re m cooled only by the dash vents - doesn’t work great, and it’s in the cab

With that thin rear window, there’d probably need to be rooftop vents over the rear seats that can be directed vac into the vault - to have a fighting chance

 

[CyberGus]

I do hope the rear window comes down. That way you can run the AC while you’re camping in the back.

easy fix

 

[papajamaliciousness]

Ding, dong, the passthrough (theory) is dead!

Joining the ranks of other obviously fantasy theories; no mirrors/just cameras, laser wipers.

okay but the pass through idea was totally doable and elon did give support to the idea.

 

[papajamaliciousness]

it’s speculation about the rear window being capable of rolling down. We don’t know if it will roll down. Some of us hope.

Even assuming it rolls down, since that rear window is maybe 10” tall, and obscured at its 1/3rds by wide headrests, you be the judge if that would be sufficient “access” for your use cases.

Well I have been on a diet so assuming I can lose 45% of my body mass before the CT becomes available there is a chance I can fit through the window, especially if the CT includes a time machine so that I can go back my skeletal body dimensions in 1983. So. Awesome probability I can use the access window.

Why not just stow the cover below the point where it would block access to the back, like in the floor. Then you could have sensors to make sure the path is clear so that people do not get decapitated by the cover traveling from the stowage position below the floor up to its top position as a vault or the other way.

 

[cvalue13]

Then you could have sensors to make sure the path is clear so that people do not get decapitated by the cover traveling from the stowage position below the floor up to its top position as a vault or the other way.

the vault cover will have bump stop sensors either way. has to, for cargo and finger-in-the-tailgate reasons, etc.

that wouldn’t be a reason for not having midgate or rear window access

Reasons would instead be in the bucket of cost-benefit

eg if the rear window is only 10” tall, 1/3 obstructed by headrests, has a vault cover behind it, etc., then the utility of a roll-down window starts to diminish, while the cost and complexity of the truck remains a countervailing consideration.

arguably in that same bucket are eg the tailgate ramp and on board air. They both add cost and weight to every unit made, for features that will be rarely if ever used by many owners, all while aftermarket (or Tesla accessory) solutions are available and cost-effective for those that *need* the functions

back to the rear window rolling down: the *onoy* real utility I could see in it, would be the prospect of possibly sharing HVAC with the vault. But the reality is, that sort of passive conditioning would be pretty damn ineffective. If you’ve ever sat in the back seat of a lower trim crew cab that has only HVAC vents on the dash, you learn that such passive conditioning is poor. Now try it with a 10” window, attempting to passively condition a ~60cuft+ vault.

just speculation of course, and not intended to be conclusive that the rear window *doesnt* roll down - intended only to say there seem plenty of available rationales as to why Tesla may have thought better of it.

 

[SparkChaser]

It also may not stow completely below the bed level and remain in the space between the cab and the Bed.

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