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Literally, this survey says more than half think EVs are taking over in five years.

And a massive 75% think it's inevitable eventually.

That's... Big.

-Crissa
Yeah, that actually surprised me. And the same could be said for the headline question. 44% of potential customers think the CT is a real truck? For such a radical design on a new product nameplate, that seems exceptionally high. It has far more consumer awareness than I thought.
 

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https://electrek.co/2023/03/20/truck-drivers-dont-believe-tesla-cybertruck-real-truck/

Truck drivers don’t believe Tesla Cybertruck is a ‘real truck’

A new survey of American truck drivers shows that many of them are getting ready to go electric, but the majority of them don’t even believe Tesla Cybertruck is a “real truck.”

American Trucks is behind the survey and described its intention with it:


Historically, truck drivers have been more resistant to the electric transition, and there’s a good reason for that.

While range is becoming a nonissue for most passenger vehicle use, if you are using your truck to actually do work, like pulling a heavy trailer, it will indeed limit your range greatly.

The survey shows that 35% of truck drivers are considering going electric this decade and most of them over the next five years:

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Here are the most popular electric pickup trucks that current truck drivers are most excited about:
  1. Ford F-150 Lightning
  2. Tesla Cybertruck
  3. Chevrolet Silverado EV
  4. Toyota Tacoma EV
  5. Rivian R1T
  6. GMC Sierra EV
  7. Canoo Pickup Truck

Interestingly, the survey also included nontruck drivers. If you isolate them, the Tesla Cybertruck becomes the most anticipated electric pickup truck:
  1. Tesla Cybertruck
  2. Ford F-150 Lightning
  3. Toyota Tacoma EV

Tesla is saying that the Cybertruck is going into production this summer, but most truck drivers surveyed believe it is still at least two years away.

Truck drivers are looking for longer ranges, more charging stations, and faster charge times to help convince them to go electric.

FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. More.

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Electrek has become the junk heap of EV journalism.
 

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I read all the way to the bottom of the page of the original poll, and it was followed by another less-known but equally important poll, where it was decided that 86% of the pollers were judged to not be real truck drivers.
So, there's that.
 


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The most overused Sheep Calls by establishment media in recent years (very common on morning radio or 'mainstream' articles), always begins with words, "A new Study..." or "A new Survey...".

In almost every broadcast to the targeted sheep, these 'studies' or 'surveys' conveniently leave out the Sample Size or otherwise bury it in details or fine print.

Viewing the actual web article for this particular 'Survey', one finds that a only mere 458 people were (surveyed). Seriously?! With this nation of over 325 million people they only survey 458 people? It appears very much like they had to keep surveying over and over until they found a group of 458 that had the results they wanted.

Why even publish a 'survey' with a sample size so small? Oh, that's right many sheep will not even look at the details, and perceive it as a major widespread trend.

In today's world you can find 458 people owning trucks who think the Earth is flat or think that biological/environmental science and laws of physics are optional.

Such a clickbait Sheep Calling article is a total waste of time.

- ÆCIII
 
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Electrek has become the junk heap of EV journalism.
to be fair, OP could have linked the actual article rather than Electrek’s sub-digest

not to stand behind ‘American Truck’ magazine

Viewing the actual web article for this particular 'Survey', one finds that a only mere 458 people were (surveyed). Seriously?! With this nation of over 325 million people they only survey 458 people?
How many do you think a truck magazine needs to poll? You’re coming across pretty intense to then only make a point that suggests you don’t fully grasp polling statistics.

It’s a truck magazine, not Gallup. If readers can’t understand that difference alone, that’s more on the reader, not the magazine.

But a properly conducted survey of ~500 respondents would mean this survey is only a few percentage points less in reliability than a Gallup poll. Once a properly conducted survey sample gets to a size of 500, 600, 700 or more, there are fewer and fewer accuracy gains which come from increasing the sample size.

Gallup national polls typically have a sample size of only 1000. Which is statistical good form for a top tier polling institution seeking important polling data (eg national policy issues of impact).

The fact alone that a truck mag had ~500 respondents doesn’t tell anyone, one way or the other, whether the survey was sound. For a truck magazine’s poll to be only a few percentage points lower in accuracy than a Gallup poll seems to me a possibly reasoned approach to such a relatively unimportant poll.
 
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Market penetration speaks for itself.

Tesla has embryonic Austin and Germany with a combined production potential of 4 million+

Mexico in 24 , and maybe another China factory by then too.

We at on the cusp of legacy running out of fictional FUD narratives.

Give it 6-12 months.
 

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I got buddies who still think the Cybertruck is a sham and is not a real truck. I don't agree with them since they are GM fanboys and will crap on every other truck OR vehicle that isn't a GM (GM fanboys are equally as toxic as Tesla Fanboys). Maybe a ride in the Cybertruck and gapping them in their POS GM vehicles, probably they will change their minds.

Sometimes, it may take this type of route to change peoples mind about a vehicle or a brand/manufacturer, if they are stubborn and won't see a vehicle as either a truck or will say its a sham or scam from a manufacturer.
 


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to be fair, OP could have linked the actual article rather than Electrek’s sub-digest

not to stand behind ‘American Truck’ magazine



How many do you think a truck magazine needs to poll? You’re coming across pretty intense to then only make a point that suggests you don’t fully grasp polling statistics.

It’s a truck magazine, not Gallup. If readers can’t understand that difference alone, that’s more on the reader, not the magazine.

But a properly conducted survey of ~500 respondents would mean this survey is only a few percentage points less in reliability than a Gallup poll. Once a properly conducted survey sample gets to a size of 500, 600, 700 or more, there are fewer and fewer accuracy gains which come from increasing the sample size.

Gallup national polls typically have a sample size of only 1000. Which is statistical good form for a top tier polling institution seeking important polling data (eg national policy issues of impact).

The fact alone that a truck mag had ~500 respondents doesn’t tell anyone, one way or the other, whether the survey was sound. For a truck magazine’s poll to be only a few percentage points lower in accuracy than a Gallup poll seems to me a possibly reasoned approach to such a relatively unimportant poll.
I wasn't critiquing Electrek, nor the OP. I was only critiquing the original article and the flawed polling methodology.

All those other polls with small sample sizes are fundamentally useless too. Some of them could be representative at times, but only by luck or accident. Neglecting to sample a larger number of people will yield negligent results.

Saying something has 'always been done that way' or that one 'doesn't grasp polling statistics' is to avoid addressing the fundamental flaw of small sample sizes. The larger the sample size, the more accurate and representative polling data is likely to be. Establishment MSM or polling companies don't want people to hear that though, because being pressed for larger sample sizes would cost them a lot more money, would require them to be a lot more thorough, and polls would be harder to skew in one direction or another.

Saying that a small poll sample size is adequate or Ok, would be like saying that Tesla only needs 600 FSD ßeta Testers instead of 300,000 or more. Tesla knows the value of more complete and representative data which is why they committed to install hardware in all their cars to collect data.

With today's technology, the Twitter polls that collect a lot of input like the ones Elon and other have posted, are a lot more accurate than some sliver of people's numbers published in a typeset fancy format.

Regardless of all this, the Real polls are the number of Cybertruck reservations (last we checked they were many times more than the Ford F-150 Lighting), and also the number of people that take delivery of the Cybertruck. Those are the real polls because money talks. All the rest is just noise in comparison.

- ÆCIII
 

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All those other polls with small sample sizes are fundamentally useless too. Some of them could be representative at times, but only by luck or accident. Neglecting to sample a larger number of people will yield negligent results.
again:

You’re coming across pretty intense to then only make a point that suggests you don’t fully grasp polling statistics.
you’re clearly just injecting some arm-chair instinct about how you believe polling statistics and methodology works.

Which is a bad look when you go on to adamantly insist on points that are demonstrably false by the entirety of … math.you may as well be screaming “two plus two is seven!!!!

saying things like:

With today's technology, the Twitter polls that collect a lot of input like the ones Elon and other have posted, are a lot more accurate than some sliver of people's numbers published in a typeset fancy format.
… is, ironically, an absolutely self-evident indication you have near zero clue what you are talking so feverishly about.

Your instincts are a bad barometer to understanding statistics.

EDIT TO ADD: just to be clear, I’m not here defending the accuracy of the American Trucks poll. Instead, I’m only pointing out that the sample size alone is in fact near zero indication of the accuracy of the poll, and can be a completely sufficient sample goal to reach high confidence levels if the poll/sampling was conducted correctly.

The magazine article doesn’t give its sampling methodology, which is the actually available critique of the article.

To miss that critique of unknown sample methodology, and instead attack the otherwise adequate-looking sample size, is … a bad look.
 
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Maybe a ride in the Cybertruck and gapping them in their POS GM vehicles, probably they will change their minds.
I owned a 2018 Camaro SS 1LE. I was gapped by a Model 3 Dual Motor and blown away by a Model 3 Performance.
 

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Their tunes will change when they see it.

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