Cybertruck 1000V Architecture + V4 Supercharging Confirmed!! ⚡️ "It's Going to be Used for Cybertruck Too" - Elon Musk

[Crissa]

Confirmed? OK
But no date, when there's a MuskDate it's (DeliveryDate = MuskDate + 3 years ) in general. No date is plain vapor....

That's not what vapor means? And the truck is only 11 months late so far.

-Crissa

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[Rutrow]

I wanted a tri-motor but it is prob in the 80-90k range with the solar tonneau, so no $7.5k rebate. Hopefully they have a dual motor with an option for 500 mile range for under 80k with solar cover. That should be good enough for me, range is much more important than a 3 second 0-60. 4.5 is plenty fast for a truck of this size.

I too reserved the Tri-motor CyberTruck the night of the reveal. It was the right choice for me because of the 14,000 lb tow rating Tesla pitched, as well as the 500 mile range. My plan for my CyberTruck is pulling my retirement RV trailer. The $69,900 plus the $7000 locked in price for FSD would have been the most money I had paid for ANYTHING in my life!!! (I paid $76,000 for my house in 1992 )

When I signed the reservation agreement it was clear that that price wasn't guaranteed, and although I hoped, I didn't really expect that that price would hold (I know about Elon time ) I didn't need, and don't care about, a 0-60 time <3 seconds, but I would have taken family and friends for a launch. It was the towing and range that I was after. I was hoping that a full battery while pulling a full timer's trailer would get me at least 150ish miles. Prudent RVers have a "3/3/3 rule" Drive no further than 300 miles in a day. Stop every 3 hours. And arrive no later than 3:00. THAT is the perfect routine for an Electric RV towing truck!!! and I thought the Tri-Motor CyberTruck with a 500 mile range would be the ONLY way to accomplish that.

Then came the Tweet from Elon indicating that Tesla was considering a QUAD-MOTOR CyberTruck!(QMCT)?! I had to ask myself if this QMCT was the route I needed to go. I don't really want to flirt with the absolute maximum towing capacity, so should I step up to the QMCT just to be on the safe side?!? I had resigned myself to the possibility that the Tri-Motor price surely would have increased to $80-$90,000 or MORE, how much was this Quad-motor version gonna cost me?!?

Now I come to find out that a Tesla Semi Truck can tow over 50,000 lbs of payload with ONLY THREE MOTORS . Is there any real reason I even need the Tri-Motor version? It sounds like each motor of the Semi is capable of propelling over 27,000 lbs (27k X 3 = 81k) I see no reason I need anything more than a Dual-Motor?!? (27k X 2 = 54k)

Elon is fond of saying "The best part is no part". If two motors can handle more weight than any pick-up truck will EVER be expected to haul, WHY wouldn't Tesla eliminate a unneeded, superfluous part like an extra carbon wrapped rotor motor. I'm thinking about downgrading to the DMCT with the unstated knowledge that it will more than handle any load I throw at it.

 

[CyberGus]

Throw an iron skillet onto the stove on high heat, until some cooking oil starts to smoke. Would you grab the handle? Don’t! It will be hot.

Same experiment, but instead use a torch on one spot under the pan. Oil starts smoking sooner, but only in the one spot. The handle might get warm.

…And that is the difference between a tabless cell and a tabbed one, in terms of heat dissipation.

 

[Cybertruck Hawaii]

I won’t need a large battery if the battery can be charged up very quickly. That would save the wear on the tire and allow my vehicle registration fee is be smaller since it is based on weight.

 

[samroy92]

I won’t need a large battery if the battery can be charged up very quickly. That would save the wear on the tire and allow my vehicle registration fee is be smaller since it is based on weight.

Catch-22, bigger batteries can charge "faster" in other words they add more range in the same amount of time. If you plug in a Model 3 to the 1 MW charger, it'll still tap out at 250kW ... Semi on the other hand... Same battery cells!

Extra detail (can ignore): This is due to the simple fact that power is distributed across more cells, each cell can only handle a certain amount of power.

 

[Cybertruck Hawaii]

Catch-22, bigger batteries can charge "faster" in other words they add more range in the same amount of time. If you plug in a Model 3 to the 1 MW charger, it'll still tap out at 250kW ... Semi on the other hand... Same battery cells!

Extra detail (can ignore): This is due to the simple fact that power is distributed across more cells, each cell can only handle a certain amount of power.

Thanks for the tip. Live and learn!

 

[Cybertruck for All]

Cybertruck will have sooo many features and sooo cool that I think it will cost at least $70k for the base model. I reserved a single motor because it was listed at $40k. I cannot afford anything more than $40K. Anyone here would like to buy my CT. I wouldn't mind buying it, selling it to someone and wouldn't mind driving it across the country to deliver it. I am at 602,000 reservation, so I don't think I will get it anytime before 2025.

 

[kbolt]

Zac and Jesse have a pretty good coverage starting just after the 32 minute mark:

 

[Ogre]

Simi Charging and CT charging have nothing to do with each other and V4 Simi charging will not work with CT charging.

Right in the middle of the piece of the Semi event where they were talking about charging Musk said “It’s coming to the Cybertruck too”. It would be quite odd for them to say that if they had nothing to do with each other.

 

[Dids]

Right in the middle of the piece of the Semi event where they were talking about charging Musk said “It’s coming to the Cybertruck too”. It would be quite odd for them to say that if they had nothing to do with each other.

He then said this is coming to our superchargers next year. And @DFW clearly has not bothered to read NACS documents.

 

[Don Kedick]

"It physically pains me to read Simi that many times. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

 

[Crissa]

View attachment 15025

Semi, not Simi.

And the last photo is a GB/T plug from China.
https://insideevs.com/news/341885/chinese-tesla-model-3-spotted-with-proper-gb-t-connector/

The coolant from the charger goes into the cable, through the handle, and then back to the charger. It doesn't go into the vehicle.

This diagram show the coolant goes up the cable, then mixes with the conductors at the handle, then follows the conductors and returns to the charger.

-Crissa

 

[GlockandRoll]

Semi uses Model 3/ Y motors.

Thats the only way they can claim 50.9b miles on the Drive Unit.

Cybertruck may follow suit To keep costs down.

They may also use the same clutch mechanic the semi uses to increase efficiency. Perhaps the tri motor Cybertruck isn’t dead after all. Running a single motor when cruising would be a good way to stretch range.

The Semi and Cybertruck will use 2 plaid carbon-wrapped motors in the rear, and what the powertrain engineers call a "legacy" motor in the front with about 1200hp coming from the rear and 300hp in the front.

 

[Crissa]

MegaCharger SuperCharger V4

Cybertruck charging.

MegaCharging and EvTruck EvCar charging are totally different.

Musk made a mistake about CT charging on a MegaCharger

MegaCharger
Water-Cooled Plug
Water-Cooled Cable
Water-Cooled Charger

EvTruck EvCar
No water-Cooled Plugs
No Water-Cooled Cables
No Water-Cooled Chargers

Plugs Plug Cable Chargers are all incompatible Form Fit Function MegaCharger are all incompatible

That's a prototype from several years ago.

It was pre- v3 Supercharging. So it was also pre v4 Supercharging and the MCS charging standard.

v3 Supercharging has a liquid-cooled cable, and v4 Supercharging supports liquid-cooled conductors, which is slightly but significantly different.

Most truck charging installed in the wild uses the MCS connector, which supports a liquid-cooled mega charging connection as well.

I know you want to know what the Cybertruck has, but right now, we just don't know. We just know that some part of the megacharging - either protocol or voltage or connector (inclusive or) - will be compatible with the megacharging standard Tesla has decided to go with.

-Crissa

 

[chonnertruk]

I too reserved the Tri-motor CyberTruck the night of the reveal. It was the right choice for me because of the 14,000 lb tow rating Tesla pitched, as well as the 500 mile range. My plan for my CyberTruck is pulling my retirement RV trailer. The $69,900 plus the $7000 locked in price for FSD would have been the most money I had paid for ANYTHING in my life!!! (I paid $76,000 for my house in 1992 )

When I signed the reservation agreement it was clear that that price wasn't guaranteed, and although I hoped, I didn't really expect that that price would hold (I know about Elon time ) I didn't need, and don't care about, a 0-60 time <3 seconds, but I would have taken family and friends for a launch. It was the towing and range that I was after. I was hoping that a full battery while pulling a full timer's trailer would get me at least 150ish miles. Prudent RVers have a "3/3/3 rule" Drive no further than 300 miles in a day. Stop every 3 hours. And arrive no later than 3:00. THAT is the perfect routine for an Electric RV towing truck!!! and I thought the Tri-Motor CyberTruck with a 500 mile range would be the ONLY way to accomplish that.

Then came the Tweet from Elon indicating that Tesla was considering a QUAD-MOTOR CyberTruck!(QMCT)?! I had to ask myself if this QMCT was the route I needed to go. I don't really want to flirt with the absolute maximum towing capacity, so should I step up to the QMCT just to be on the safe side?!? I had resigned myself to the possibility that the Tri-Motor price surely would have increased to $80-$90,000 or MORE, how much was this Quad-motor version gonna cost me?!?

Now I come to find out that a Tesla Semi Truck can tow over 50,000 lbs of payload with ONLY THREE MOTORS . Is there any real reason I even need the Tri-Motor version? It sounds like each motor of the Semi is capable of propelling over 27,000 lbs (27k X 3 = 81k) I see no reason I need anything more than a Dual-Motor?!? (27k X 2 = 54k)

Elon is fond of saying "The best part is no part". If two motors can handle more weight than any pick-up truck will EVER be expected to haul, WHY wouldn't Tesla eliminate a unneeded, superfluous part like an extra carbon wrapped rotor motor. I'm thinking about downgrading to the DMCT with the unstated knowledge that it will more than handle any load I throw at it.

Ditto on largest purchase in history--- I just hope they don't price me out of my reservation. In the early days of the reservation frenzy, I went the Dual Motor FSD route, eventually upgrading to tri-Motor without FSD. I believe there will be enough standard driving features for my appreciation.

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