Cybertruck trailering explained

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Musk says Cybertruck to get paintball machine gun mounted on bed rails?!
Start date Sep 28, 2020
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Elon Musk 7:58 PM · Sep 27, 2020
What about a heavy duty, paintball machine gun mounted on the bed rails?

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Do you realise you can start your own thread if you want to discuss something other than the trailer mentioned at the start of the thread?

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[firsttruck]

Do you realise you can start your own thread if you want to discuss something other than the trailer mentioned at the start of the thread?

Why should I?

1. The roof mount & trailer the original poster showed is not even the first product like that on the market.

2. Comparing roof mount hitch to what might work with Cybertruck (VW, Chevy & others do not have glass roofs).

3. Some posters were comparing roof mount to standard bed mounted 5th wheel setups.

4. I was replying to a comment about 5th wheel mounting in Cybertruck bed.

5. I already suggested that with Cybertruck instead of mounting over the roof, a better solution (if bed mount is not possible) is 5th wheel/goose-neck hitch attached to rack rails over the vault ( below and rear of roof/vault peak).

6. The title only says "Cybertruck trailering explained"

More specifically my last reply was that Cybertruck bed might support the mounting of 5th wheel hitch and that same mounting capability in bed could also be relevant to other equipment some Cybertruck owners might be use in the bed.

 

[cvalue13]

Tow vehicle being able to do a 90° to the RV trailer is nice capability but is not a requirement.

There are many ICE pickups with 5th wheel hitches that can not do 90° to the RV trailer.

I don’t know that we’re talking about the same things to the same ends

but it doesn’t change the issue about boxes over the hitch, or the bed subframe.

in any event, I’d never disagree that some specific and yet unknown configuration of a sliding 5th hitch, plus a specific trailer without box, a driver sitting on a phone book, on a full moon, couldn’t be made to work.

Parts of the casting are under the bed but at that camera angle we do not know how far it extends

at that camera angle, with that casting, it’s clear there’s no casting at or near mid-bed

not to say that at some later point of production they don’t weld/add some other portion of casting.

really neither here nor there to the underlying point: unless and until we know that Tesla makes substructure for these types of trailers, doesn’t matter much our various armchair views about trailers clearing the sail geometry etc.

 

[fritter63]

Lol. Can you imagine those 60hp trying to pull that trailer up through Loveland pass?

No. I STILL have nightmares about my '86 Toyota 4x4 with 31" tires on it, trying to get up that to the ski areas.....

 

[Deleted member 3316]

Why should I?

1. The roof mount & trailer the original poster showed is not even the first product like that on the market.

2. Comparing roof mount hitch to what might work with Cybertruck (VW, Chevy & others do not have glass roofs).

3. Some posters were comparing roof mount to standard bed mounted 5th wheel setups.

4. I was replying to a comment about 5th wheel mounting in Cybertruck bed.

5. I already suggested that with Cybertruck instead of mounting over the roof, a better solution (if bed mount is not possible) is 5th wheel/goose-neck hitch attached to rack rails over the vault ( below and rear of roof/vault peak).

6. The title only says "Cybertruck trailering explained"

More specifically my last reply was that Cybertruck bed might support the mounting of 5th wheel hitch and that same mounting capability in bed could also be relevant to other equipment some Cybertruck owners might be use in the bed.

Because the majority of your post had interesting things in it that were divergent from the topic.
I guess we’re all used to people asking disingenuous questions and immediately take a defensive stance rather than assuming an honest interaction.
You do you, the thought police seem to approve.

 

[cvalue13]

@firsttruck gonna @firsttruck

 

[firsttruck]

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at that camera angle, with that casting, it’s clear there’s no casting at or near mid-bed
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As long as Cybertruck has support mounts under the bed maybe it doesn't necessarily matter if casting support is at exact center of bed?

Aluminum bed ICE Ford F-150 does not come standard with a heavy-duty support rail under the center of the bed. Some 5th wheel hitch installation kits include heavy-duty support bracket spanning left to right.

The main mounting bolts for most 5th wheel hitches seem not to be in the center but are located on the outside left/right edges of the hitch. The 5th wheel hitch support is like an upside down U so the main mounting bolts where the hitch meets the bed is actually near the left/right rear wheel wells.

These 5th wheel support mounting location look to be similar position as the Cybertruck rear casting wheel well flange (ie. not center of bed).

The aluminum bed F-150 do not come standard with full-size support rail under the center of the bed. Under the center of the bed there are aluminum cross-beams that span the side to side distance, NOT a full-size heavy-duty steel frame beam like the beams that run the entire length of the truck.

So maybe just like the F-150, the Cybertruck rear casting does not span under the bed from right side to left side. If the Cybertruck 3mm cold-rolled stainless steel bed and lerft/right rear castings is not enough, Tesla might add left to right cross-beams between the castings.

Below are examples of mounting 5th wheel mounting on ICE pickups.
In each example they drill holes through the bed but they never drill into the main heavy-duty frame rails and there is NO heavy-duty frame rail in the center of the bed.

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[Deleted member 3316]

The flat spot circled in red might facilitate a fifth wheel mount.

 

[cvalue13]

If the Cybertruck 3mm cold-rolled stainless steel bed and lerft/right rear castings is not enough, Tesla might add left to right cross-beams between the castings.

not to say that at some later point of production they don’t weld/add some other portion of casting.

In each example they drill holes through the bed but they never drill into the main heavy-duty frame rails and there is NO heavy-duty frame rail in the center of the bed.

Huh? They don’t drill into the frame only because the frame comes pre-drilled for framerail brackets to attach spanning supports. To attach the brackets, the truck beds are lifted off.

which is to say:

unless and until we know that Tesla makes substructure for these types of trailers, doesn’t matter much our various armchair views

Because of the unibody and battery pack, etc., I don’t see folks disassembling their CTs to access and attach brackets and the like.

Which is why I would think Tesla itself would need to not just happen to have framing near there, but to be building into the CT as OEM specific support and under-bed mounts intended to allow center bed hitches.

Maybe so!

 

[CyberGus]

Because the majority of your post had interesting things in it that were divergent from the topic.
I guess we’re all used to people asking disingenuous questions and immediately take a defensive stance rather than assuming an honest interaction.
You do you, the thought police seem to approve.

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[CyberGus]

...Which is why I would think Tesla itself would need to not just happen to have framing near there, but to be building into the CT as OEM specific support and under-bed mounts intended to allow center bed hitches.

I'm not drilling anywhere in the vicinity of a 100Wh+ battery pack lol

 

[Ogre]

I'm not drilling anywhere in the vicinity of a 100Wh+ battery pack lol

But it’s ok to drill near a 30 gallon gas tank? ?

https://www.thedrive.com/news/watch-a-tech-drill-into-a-full-gas-tank-and-start-a-massive-fire

 

[CyberGus]

But it’s ok to drill near a 30 gallon gas tank? ?

https://www.thedrive.com/news/watch-a-tech-drill-into-a-full-gas-tank-and-start-a-massive-fire

Gas tank is cheaper for my next-of-kin to repair

 

[Crissa]

No. I STILL have nightmares about my '86 Toyota 4x4 with 31" tires on it, trying to get up that to the ski areas.....

Really? We always did it in our Honda Accord.

-Crissa

 

[SparkChaser]

and my '66
VW bug.

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