Elon Musk replies to a Tweet about Pricing on the Cybertruck

[empiredown]

So it's all capitalism and corporate greed's fault? Nope... it's entities mucking around and creating better weapons that get loose and tilt the world. And then the ensuing freakout...

F Bernie. When he donates his millions to the starving masses he purports to work for, then I'll give him a nod. He lost me when he spoke to being part of the 1% and that some fool could wash his car for him...

Newsflash: not even expensive trucks that are relatively easy to produce are being produced right now. Let alone this CT that we are focused on. Like we haven't even seen more than a handful yet. Period. Perhaps all this will be mitigated in time, perhaps not. But to use past as precursor, is always a risk. Doing so now is worse and a gamble...

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[Crissa]

So it's all capitalism and corporate greed's fault? Nope... it's entities mucking around and creating better weapons that get loose and tilt the world. And then the ensuing freakout...

F Bernie. When he donates his millions to the starving masses he purports to work for, then I'll give him a nod. He lost me when he spoke to being part of the 1% and that some fool could wash his car for him...

Newsflash: not even expensive trucks that are relatively easy to produce are being produced right now. Let alone this CT that we are focused on. Like we haven't even seen more than a handful yet. Period. Perhaps all this will be mitigated in time, perhaps not. But to use past as precursor, is always a risk. Doing so now is worse and a gamble...

Newsflash: Before you reply, actually read the post you're replying to,

No one said it is all greed's fault. It only shows how narrow-minded you are that you decided to pile onto the messenger instead of bothering to check out the facts yourself.

-Crissa

 

[empiredown]

Sorta like you just did... Enjoy your world, Dear. You created it...

SS

 

[Ogre]

So it's all capitalism and corporate greed's … blah blah blah…

Can we political rant elsewhere?

Bernie does not set Cybertruck pricing.

 

[CyberGus]

Can we political rant elsewhere?

Bernie does not set Cybertruck pricing.

I have it on good authority that Bernie is a Tesla insider.

 

[Crissa]

Sorta like you just did... Enjoy your world, Dear. You created it...

SS

A world with more tolerance, equality, sci fi, and fun?

Yes, I do like the world I'm working to create.

-Crissa

 

[nomadmusk]

Apologies I'm skipping page 3,

I'd like to remind everyone of 2018

The Model 3 35k (low margin) vehicle was available while the company was on the verge of bankruptcy. That's because Elon promised his constituents a 35k car. Was it barebones? Yeah, but the point is he kept his word. Once he felt that the early adopters that are always in his corner had been served he removed the option.

There's been inflation across the board on materials, especially batteries with the competition, semiconductors was just the worst hit. To me, all that matters now is getting the 4680s running at full capacity and beyond.

 

[Ogre]

The Model 3 35k (low margin) vehicle was available while the company was on the verge of bankruptcy. That's because Elon promised his constituents a 35k car. Was it barebones? Yeah, but the point is he kept his word. Once he felt that the early adopters that are always in his corner had been served he removed the option.

A lot of people would be just fine with a Cybertruck with cloth seats, no seat heaters, rubber floors (many would prefer that!), and a spartan interior.

It’s a truck. It moves stuff.

 

[CyberGus]

Since the trim level variants have changed significantly since reveal day (quad motors, four-wheel steering, BAW, etc.) we'll all be able to claim victory when facts come out lol

 

[nomadmusk]

I'm gutting the whole thing, so honestly I could give a fuck what's inside. I'm just laser focused on as much range as I can afford in an ev pickup. Original model S/X's that have been cared for, i.e. kept off super chargers, have kept 80-90% of their range over 10 years. When the resale market for EVs gets a head on it's shoulders that's all anyone is gonna care about.

All this performance from competition is nice, but I just can't see it going better then ludicrous mode on early model Xs. A.k.a. Rivian, porche, GM, and anyone else with a 2.9 0-60 on their first attempt are SoL. I also wanna see how just competitive supercharging by itself does on a ionic 5 longterm.

 

[firsttruck]

A lot of people would be just fine with a Cybertruck with cloth seats, no seat heaters, rubber floors (many would prefer that!), and a spartan interior.

It’s a truck. It moves stuff.

We normally do not need seat heaters in Mexico.

I actually would prefer a Cybertruck with basic interior but with LiFePO4 structural battery pack. The maximum amount of LiFePO4 cells that would fit.

 

[hridge2020]

 

[Ogre]

Rivian cancellations are huge. The back-lash in the Rivian community is almost universally massively negative. Some of their biggest proponents are calling it outright betrayal and buying ICE trucks instead.

If Tesla is going to increase prices, they need to get ahead of it. This would be a shit-storm of negative publicity and a huge blow to Tesla’s reputation if they were to pull what Rivian did.

The folks who say Cybertruck prices are inevitable and that the community will just suck it up should take a long hard look at what is going on in the Rivian community.

 

[Ogre]

There are the guys from “Rivian Stories”. They built an online community of Rivian owners. They have a weekly podcast. It’s fair to say they are some of the biggest Rivian fans out there.



One of the hosts is buying a Nissan. Didn’t catch what the other two were doing, but I’m pretty sure it rhymes with Hansel.

 

[SpaceYooper]

Here's my guess:

Affordable version:
$60k + FSD...

Mars Rover Version:
$120k + FSD...

This feels like an anchoring tactic by Tesla leadership. Lets all talk about how bad it will be to include a 50% price jump in the affordable version, so then when it's a 10% jump everyone will be OK with it.

To this I say NO, and stop tryin to condition us.

Right now we only have the initial release price. They knew they were not releasing the vehicle for sale that day, so as far as we know "inflation" pricing was already built in. And it was probably built in with a cushion in mind because that would be the prudent thing to do when you're talking about selling something that didn't even have a factory built yet.

So that's my guess. The initial release price was the price they felt safe releasing with the consideration in mind that they were projecting into the future. No price change needed.

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