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I am in the same boat, bought a Y and an S last year. My S wasn’t due in until January, they were calling and emailing like crazy to buy before the price changes, talked me into taking one in inventory for 10K free supercharger miles. If I would’ve waited for my original order I would’ve saved a ton. I lost $52K between the 2 cars. The Y is on me I paid what I felt it was worth months before the price change. The S was 100% influenced by them, that is not caring about your customers. I’d have no issue if they weren’t begging me to get one early, that was wrong.

I‘ve been tempted to move on from Tesla. I have a Cybertruck on order, I’m probably going to skip it more due to range and the amount of time it takes to charge.

Sorry to hear you got jacked too, I’m sure there are many of us.
Yeah, sorry to hear your story, man. I really want to love Tesla but that feeling of being manipulated and being taken advantage of is hard to forget. Especially when they continue screwing you over. So many things they could have done to make it less painful. Free FSD would have helped with resale value and cost them nothing to offer.
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My concern about the range is:
  1. Is the charging speed going to be addressed or improved? If not, then #2
  2. People are starting to take delivery of a Cybertruck with a potential newer 4680 battery that can offer up to 10% to 20% more range. So in theory, the AWD Foundation Series could have LESS range than the Cyberbeast which is slated to be released in the latter half of 2024. The resale value of the Foundation Series AWD will plummet.

I am not sure if anyone shares the same concern.
Same concerns, the charging speed currently is worse than the Rivian and other EVs that have been out for years.
20% range increase would get the CT close to the high 200s or low 300 miles which would be doable.
SOOOOO glad I haven't taken delivery of a $113k truck that has the older batteries in it and about 200 miles of range and a 1-2 hour charge time at a SC

Had not thought of the resale value of the FS with the new battery tech coming.
 

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My concern about the range is:
  1. Is the charging speed going to be addressed or improved? If not, then #2
  2. People are starting to take delivery of a Cybertruck with a potential newer 4680 battery that can offer up to 10% to 20% more range. So in theory, the AWD Foundation Series could have LESS range than the Cyberbeast which is slated to be released in the latter half of 2024. The resale value of the Foundation Series AWD will plummet.
I believe Tesla should delay/stop the delivery of all Cybertrucks until the 4680v3 they are converting to is ready.

As someone who has a AWD Foundation Series on order, I hope I don’t get a VIN number email. Gaining 20% range is pretty significant. If given the option, I would rather wait for the non-foundation series, which probably won’t see the light of day until the end of 2024/start of 2025…or pay to get the Cyberbeast.

I just think receiving a product that tips the scale at $114K all in and then to have such a massive battery tech enhancement coming so quickly is bad news all around. I don’t want to move to the back of the line (2 million+ people). Not sure what options I have.

I am not sure if anyone shares the same concern.
Pretty sure, that as far as we know, they may have already done that. There is no inventory of batteries, as soon as the battery is made, it's shoved in the truck.
And I'd assume that any announcements about batteries they have made were probably weeks after something really happened.
I think that if they realized that they were going to do a lot better in weeks or months, that they wouldn't even have announced it. Announcements like that cannibalize sales.

But who knows.
 

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Munroe mentioned that he got notes from 350 people offering up their CT for breakdown. Sounds like buyers remorse to me.

Sandy Munro gets his Christmas Wish for 2 Cybertrucks fullfilled
Wow! Amazing how people can completely misunderstand things.

Since maybe only a handful of these people have actually even ordered their vehicle, and probably none that have actually bought one, these are people who are fanatics and want to help Sandy show the world all the awesome things in the truck.
 


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My concern about the range is:
  1. Is the charging speed going to be addressed or improved? If not, then #2
  2. People are starting to take delivery of a Cybertruck with a potential newer 4680 battery that can offer up to 10% to 20% more range. So in theory, the AWD Foundation Series could have LESS range than the Cyberbeast which is slated to be released in the latter half of 2024. The resale value of the Foundation Series AWD will plummet.
I believe Tesla should delay/stop the delivery of all Cybertrucks until the 4680v3 they are converting to is ready.

As someone who has a AWD Foundation Series on order, I hope I don’t get a VIN number email. Gaining 20% range is pretty significant. If given the option, I would rather wait for the non-foundation series, which probably won’t see the light of day until the end of 2024/start of 2025…or pay to get the Cyberbeast.

I just think receiving a product that tips the scale at $114K all in and then to have such a massive battery tech enhancement coming so quickly is bad news all around. I don’t want to move to the back of the line (2 million+ people). Not sure what options I have.

I am not sure if anyone shares the same concern.
I must have missed it, where was it mentioned on the new v3 being implemented or simply an assumption?
 

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I must have missed it, where was it mentioned on the new v3 being implemented or simply an assumption?
I don't think that anyone knows. It's possible that it is already being implemented.
 

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TickTock said:
Munroe mentioned that he got notes from 350 people offering up their CT for breakdown. Sounds like buyers remorse to me.

Sandy Munro gets his Christmas Wish for 2 Cybertrucks fullfilled
Wow! Amazing how people can completely misunderstand things.

Since maybe only a handful of these people have actually even ordered their vehicle, and probably none that have actually bought one, these are people who are fanatics and want to help Sandy show the world all the awesome things in the truck.
I could buy that if those folk had reserved two but if they only have one I don't believe that many people would be willing to give it up willingly. Munro did not say what they were asking so another possibility that seems probable is these were folks hoping to turn profit.
 

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pristine MY with 12k miles? $36k. My car lost $34k in 13 months.

this is brutal and robbery,

that is why Hertz dumping the EVs, lose value faster than ICE plus Tesla price adjustments. i have been driving Tesla for more than 5 years, but I never experienced good customer service from Tesla or felt as s customer.
Generally speaking, these days customers are just a digital number in the books for corporations to milk money (except Amazon).
But you still have a car and can still buy a replacement.

I don't understand what you're (or Hertz is) complaining about. When you can get the replacement car faster for less, what's the problem?

-Crissa
 

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I could buy that if those folk had reserved two but if they only have one I don't believe that many people would be willing to give it up willingly. Munro did not say what they were asking so another possibility that seems probable is these were folks hoping to turn profit.
You evidently don't understand the community.
Sandy is a very knowledgeable person with a company that has been doing teardowns for years. The buy a vehicle, tear it down and sell the results to other manufacturers.

Tesla was a Tesla hater. Sandy knew the auto industry and technology too well to believe any of Tesla's BS.

Then he started tearing Teslas down and realize that so much of what he knew was just wrong. Tesla had done so many amazing things at levels that consumers never would see. It truly blew his mind at how well Tesla was designing cars leap years ahead of the rest of the pack.
So there are a lot of people, that probably have some significantly disposable income that would love to have Sandy tear their trucks apart. It's all done in the name of advancement. It's similar in concept with how Elon will effectively throw rockets away, just to gain information.
 


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Did your lease allow you to buy it? I know that for a while, Tesla leases were absolutely no purchase options.
There is no right purchase option but I think that will be Tesla's loss not mine. I think they will try to make me an offer rather than take a car back that they will have a hard time selling for top dollar.
 

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But you still have a car and can still buy a replacement.

I don't understand what you're (or Hertz is) complaining about. When you can get the replacement car faster for less, what's the problem?

-Crissa
There is a long list of items that I can list after owing Tesla more than 5 years , 2 different cars
Not sure if fanboys will able to bear it here or admin of this forum
 

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Wow! Amazing how people can completely misunderstand things.

Since maybe only a handful of these people have actually even ordered their vehicle, and probably none that have actually bought one, these are people who are fanatics and want to help Sandy show the world all the awesome things in the truck.
I'd give him mine if I could.
 
 








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