FSD Fail 💀 Almost Died

[HaulingAss]

I am amazed at two things. The first is that the driver didn't take control immediately -- no way I would risk an accident to see if FSD could handle it -- but that's a personal choice. The second is that so many people would attack them for documenting this.

Speaking for myself, I didn't attack the OP for documenting this, I attacked her for not taking responsibility for her actions. For trying to blame others. It's a dangerous mindset to use be using FSD in (which is why Tesla so clearly warns about remaining vigilant at all times).

When I see a post that attacks the OP simply for documenting a particular failing, I will let you know.

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[igs]

He knew FSD wasn't going to stop at that yield sign

Yield sign is not stop sign ?‍

 

[igs]

Speaking for myself, I didn't attack the OP for documenting this, I attacked her for not taking responsibility for her actions. For trying to blame others. It's a dangerous mindset to use be using FSD in (which is why Tesla so clearly warns about remaining vigilant at all times).

When I see a post that attacks the OP simply for documenting a particular failing, I will let you know.

Who did I blame? Every manual intervention is an FSD fail (according the Elon Musk). I manually intervened. If I simply turned off FSD before the intersection that would not be considered an intervention, that would be considered driving with FSD off. Are you saying every time someone intervenes FSD it's their fault?

 

[cybercricket]

Yield sign is not stop sign ?‍

In practice Yield often has to be treated like a stop sign because there is just no way to maintain the situational awareness at that angle. There is a crosswalk before the intersection there - you have to keep your eyes on the road in front to ensure you don't run over a pedestrian. Then once you've negotiated that you have to ensure there is no cross traffic, but because of the angle it's not an easy "look over the shoulder" or look at the mirror. You do in fact have to stop before entering the roadway, turn your upper body left and check for openings before proceeding.

It's not that difficult, you just got to apply common sense.

 

[Green Gene]

FSD failed big time. I almost died. No amount of manual intervention could have prevented it. Good thing the other driver swerved. FSD is fatally flawed.

Either I missed it or nobody has yet ask what version of FSD did this happen? 13.2.2 or the newer 13.2.4? Just curious. Earlier versions prior to 13.2.2 I had a lot of those same merging problems. A lot less 13.2.2 but still happens. I haven't got 13.2.4 yet.

 

[FarAway]

Yield sign is not stop sign ?‍

Au contraire, a yield sign IS A stop sign if there is traffic with the right way at the intersection.

 

[igs]

Au contraire, a yield sign IS A stop sign if there is traffic with the right way at the intersection.

"if" there is traffic. How would I know there is traffic before I got to the intersection? Basically you're saying stop (turn off FSD) before the intersection, which again defeats the point of FSD.

 

[Green Gene]

Just a note to share while on topic of FSD. DO NOT CLEAN windows with RAIN X. It puts a coating on the glass that really F@%ks with the camera's. Especially night driving and when the sun was low on the horizon. My FSD was really messed up. I had to re-clean and scrub over a number of days to remove the coating. Gland to say FSD is up and running correctly again. If there were instructions out there not to use rain x then I missed it. If there is anyone else out there thinking on using it don't.

 

[cybercricket]

"if" there is traffic. How would I know there is traffic before I got to the intersection? Basically you're saying stop (turn off FSD) before the intersection, which again defeats the point of FSD.

You have to stop and check for cross traffic before proceeding. The configuration of that intersection precludes you from paying attention to the road in front and also checking for cross traffic.

FSD is not almighty, and it has killed people before who ignored its flaws. Look up that guy who rammed into the divider barrier KNOWING FSD was having issues in that location.

 

[REM]

Yield sign is not stop sign ?‍

^ having said that, you definitely should uninstall FSD on your truck before you kill someone.

A yield sign mandates you STOP if there is oncoming traffic. Your failure to do so is a clear danger to everyone on the road. No wonder people are randomly flipping me off as I'm driving down the road if they are encountering people like you in the wild.

 

[igs]

The configuration of that intersection precludes you from paying attention to the road in front and also checking for cross traffic.

Yes, that particular intersection is problematic. If you were familiar with it, you would stop ahead of time. But FSD is meant to take you places you've never been before, not only places you are familiar with.

 

[REM]

You have to stop and check for cross traffic before proceeding. The configuration of that intersection precludes you from paying attention to the road in front and also checking for cross traffic.

FSD is not almighty, and it has killed people before who ignored its flaws. Look up that guy who rammed into the divider barrier KNOWING FSD was having issues in that location.

Correction: people who misuse FSD have put themselves and others in harm's way. I'm not aware of an instance where FSD actually was the culprit of death or even injury. If you have an example, please let me know so I can review.

 

[igs]

Your failure to do so is a clear danger to everyone on the road.

You mean FSD failure.

 

[MadMaxTX]

Speaking for myself, I didn't attack the OP for documenting this, I attacked her for not taking responsibility for her actions. For trying to blame others. It's a dangerous mindset to use be using FSD in (which is why Tesla so clearly warns about remaining vigilant at all times).

When I see a post that attacks the OP simply for documenting a particular failing, I will let you know.

For the record, my remarks were not aimed at you. I think we agree since I said they needed to take control, and not at the last second.

 

[Bobo_LaDouche]

FSD failed big time. I almost died. No amount of manual intervention could have prevented it. Good thing the other driver swerved. FSD is fatally flawed.

Thank you for bringing this point up. This obviously has stirred up some emotion on the forum.

FSD is pretty good. Not nearly as good as the FSD on my model 3. HOWEVER, if anyone thinks FSD is going to drive them around safely, let this topic be a fair warning. Many other posts have cited serious failures of the auto pilot system. And there will be more. Probably it will get much better, based on versions for other Tesla models. It is kinda cool, and yea, I want it better too.

It is a shame to see such harsh criticism of the those bringing these observations to our attention. Name calling and character insults are rather childish. It is not like we can defend the point that FSD is flawless. Rather, maybe we can treat these experiences as something that we should be aware of, and see if there is collective agreement on the various problems we can cite. In this spirit, there can be improvement. Drive safely...)

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