FSD Fail 💀 Almost Died

[jahansolu]

That intersection has no merge lane, it ends abruptly. A few seconds earlier and this would be a non-issue. A split second later and it would be a t-bone. Almost means nearly but not quite.

You do realize what "T-Bone" means right? If not, let me explain:
T-Bone = Perpendicular

What you're referring to is called a "Side Swipe". You're welcome.

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[Ranger George]

FSD failed big time. I almost died. No amount of manual intervention could have prevented it. Good thing the other driver swerved. FSD is fatally flawed.

 

[REM]

If you watch Chuck Cooks Youtube FSD drives (and if you don't, why not?), there is a significant difference between FSD on his Ai4 Model Y and his Ai4 Cybertruck. The cars are currently on the same FSD software version and the Cybertruck has many intervention issues while the Model Y does not. They will both be much better soon (or, 2 weeks in Elon speak).

The CT branch of FSD still doesn't have native simulation data from it's own fleet telemetry (well, the majority of it anyway).

They are still using an emulator (model x, if rumors are true), but tuning the parameters to fit the truck.

 

[Cyber_Punk_SFL]

There’s an entire thread of people pointing out that you didn’t take over in time, should have been “supervising” and are sensationalizing an otherwise legit point. End of story.

 

[MyFirstElectricTesla]

uninstall your FSD before you kill someone.

There should be a new "like and laugh" emoji. Words of a wise person.

No, just sell the CT.

And don't drive any vehicles with Supervised FSD.

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

FSD failed big time. I almost died. No amount of manual intervention could have prevented it. Good thing the other driver swerved. FSD is fatally flawed.

I would demand a FULL REFUND!!!!
TOTALLY FLOORED!

 

[65SoYoLO]

Getting t-boned at full speed is almost died bro.

you don't even know what t-bone means? full speed? nonsense.

 

[Tomeriko]

Where does it show you are on FSD?

 

[igs]

There’s an entire thread of people pointing out that you didn’t take over in time

Take over in time for what? FSD failed whether I took over or not. This thread is not about the consequences of the failure. It is about the failure itself.

Should have turned off FSD before it could fail? If Tesla took your advice they would never make any progress. SpaceX would never launch any starships.

And you are directly contradicting Elon:

 

[sys700]

Consider FSD (Supervised) to be a beta. You are merely a beta tester. Did you report the issue?

 

[cybercricket]

Okay, let's break this down...

Take over in time for what? FSD failed whether I took over or not.

Can you demonstrate where FSD as delivered to you was designed, tested and advertised for this particular situation ? Or any other evidence from which you can reasonably infer for this to be the case ?

This thread is not about the consequences of the failure. It is about the failure itself.

A product can't fail at something it's not designed to do.

Should have turned off FSD before it could fail?

FSD didn't fail. It continued to operate per its "programming." It may not have been the outcome you desired for, but if you try to drive nails using a smartphone I'm pretty sure you won't be too happy with smartphone's performance either.

If Tesla took your advice they would never make any progress. SpaceX would never launch any starships.

What is this conflation ? Engineering programs have risks and mitigation strategies. Besides not being an engineer on such programs (even if you're engineer somewhere else), you're clearly unable to follow the simple risk mitigation strategy of the FSD : don't use it in the context where you have no reasonable opportunity to take over the controls.

And you are directly contradicting Elon:

Again, anyone can take stuff out of context and be de-facto wrong. Elon commented on the aspirational goal of the FSD program, not on the current capabilities of the system. Others already shared the citations to the FSD disclaimers, and you're continuing to push your line.

Just don't use it if you can't understand it's not capable of driving the vehicle safely in all conditions and all places.

 

[mongo]

Take over in time for what? FSD failed whether I took over or not. This thread is not about the consequences of the failure. It is about the failure itself.

Should have turned off FSD before it could fail? If Tesla took your advice they would never make any progress. SpaceX would never launch any starships.

And you are directly contradicting Elon:

Yes, you should intervene as soon as the vehicle is doing something you don't agree with. Preferably with the desired input (versus scroll wheel disengage followed by action).
Going too fast into an intersection? Hit the brake.
Drifting out of lane? Steer to the center.
Too slow on a left? Use the accelerator.

They use disengagement data to make FSD better. A near collision without disengagement isn't helpful unless they are running a fleet data collection that triggered on the event.

 

[CyberGus]

Just a note to share while on topic of FSD. DO NOT CLEAN windows with RAIN X. It puts a coating on the glass that really F@%ks with the camera's. Especially night driving and when the sun was low on the horizon. My FSD was really messed up. I had to re-clean and scrub over a number of days to remove the coating. Gland to say FSD is up and running correctly again. If there were instructions out there not to use rain x then I missed it. If there is anyone else out there thinking on using it don't.

I used RainX and the results are fantastic. The forward-view camera looks perfect and I have no trouble driving off into the sunset (so to speak).

That said, the manual does caution against it. Perhaps there are some formulations or application-procedures that are more prone to inducing glare?

 

[CyberGus]

Yes, that particular intersection is problematic. If you were familiar with it, you would stop ahead of time.

I agree that FSD should have yielded, but your statement above confuses me.

If this particular intersection is unsafe unless you always come to a complete stop, then the signage is incorrect. Thus, even a human driver would likely make the same mistake.

However, I object to your assertion that it is not possible to visually confirm that the path is clear without entering the lane. Your B-pillar cam clearly shows the red truck approaching at speed before your truck merged into it.

I see many such intersections that include a "right-turn-only yield ramp", and I can navigate them successfully.

 

[sys700]

Based on your responses, you should stop using FSD (Supervised) immediately before you kill someone. You clearly don't understand the risks and how it's supposed to be used.

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