I ordered a SIX seater, not FIVE seats

[Space monkey]

Front wheel wells ? Maybe as they took %5 off overall size, they jad to squeeze the front foot wells between wheels.

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[Jhodgesatmb]

Hell I ordered a SIX seater. what is this 5 seat crap

I’d say it is you reading the observations of people who looked at photographs taken at an acute angle, but not otherwise knowing what they are talking about, and taking it as fact.

 

[cvalue13]

The existence of a “third” seat in the back seat just isn’t relevant. The Rivian also has a “third” back seat, and here’s what that looks like:

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I’m bummed too. Holding out hope there’s an option for a 6th seat. It can be a skinny but seat. Most of us just want it for the occasional trip where you cram everyone in.

I want it for my dog but a console would be ok too.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

They never said it would have a midgate. They DID say it would seat 6.

So we should believe them until ‘they’ say otherwise.

 

[cvalue13]

Holding out hope there’s an option for a 6th seat. It can be a skinny but seat.

I admire your optimism! It’s a gentlemen’s quality.

I’d say it is you reading the observations of people who looked at photographs taken at an acute angle, but not otherwise knowing what they are talking about, and taking it as fact.

Here, on the other hand, you are being too quick to dismiss what are reasonable inferences. No one is purporting to have had specs on a paper marked as “official” handed to them by Elon himself. We’re all here in the realm of (occasionally) reasoned sleuthing.

This notion that ‘nobody knows what they’re taking about’ because the photo is at an “acute angle” ignores that everything in the photo is taken at the same acute angle

Accordingly, the relative size of objects is roughly ascertainable. Looking again at this picture:

For present purposes I’ll ignore that I feel I have a pretty good sense for any reasonable dimensions of a steering wheel, rearview mirror, a so-tied bandana, the depth of a window armrest, etc. - all of which could be judged relative in size to that console.

I’ll also ignore the plethora of front-on photos of the truck’s sculpted bucket seats (not common for 40/20/40 configurations) that appear to have no more than 10” between them.

And instead I’ll only point to what to me is a glaring indication of size of that center console:

I assume, reasonably, that those are two cupholders. And I assume, reasonably, that Tesla proposes only usefully-sized cupholders. From there I can defer to my experience with the jumpseat in any 40/20/40 configured seating in a full-sized pickup, across makes:

And at some point I form a reasonable inference about the CT cupholders relative to the size of the overall CT console: if betting, I’d bet a good amount against it being wide enough to suggest a 40/20/40 configuration.

I’d then additionally:

• remember that full sized trucks that do have 40/20/40 seats do not tend to have competitively sizable/comfortable driver’s/passenger’s seats, much less bucket seats (and while Tesla does have remarkably lithe seats, the CT shown has nonetheless plush looking bucket seats)

• note that all the above inferences also square with what a Tesla rep stationed to monitor and socialize the truck told multiple attendees (which if he shared unauthorized and unscripted info makes both him an idiot for talking despite his NDAs, and Tesla an idiot for choosing him for that position - which altogether seems too surprising to believe easily)

• [and, admittedly, be forced to still secretly give some credence to my similar estimations of the relative size of the steering wheel, bandana, etc.]

… to an altogether seemingly reasonable inference that this console appears unlikely to be a jumpseat, or to have the footprint necessary to substitute in a jumpseat (much less between two bucket seats)

I wouldn’t bet my firstborn’s life on it, but I would think it defensible enough for purposes of an online forum about an automobile.

 

[Crissa]

Doesn't feel like enough space with the current seats. Might need a little less bucket and a little more bench

How wide do you think those seats are? If the width of the entire truck is 80"...

-Crissa

 

[cvalue13]

How wide do you think those seats are? If the width of the entire truck is 80"...

-Crissa

surprisingly wide. Look like a cobra’s hood

so wide that, if anything, a six-seater option would be achieved - if at all - by subbing out the entire front row for a bench seat with 40/20/40

that, or the truck is surprisingly narrow, making modestly-sized seats appear gargantuan - but that’s an unlikely take only for argument’s sake

 

[Gurule92]

How wide do you think those seats are? If the width of the entire truck is 80"...

-Crissa

No idea, I am just eyeballing the amount of space between the seats at the lowest visible part of the seat. Knowing that the main seats are bucket like, it would make a flip up weird. (not impossible tho)

 

[Cyber_Starship]

I admire your optimism! It’s a gentlemen’s quality.



Here, on the other hand, you are being too quick to dismiss what are reasonable inferences. No one is purporting to have had specs on a paper marked as “official” handed to them by Elon himself. We’re all here in the realm of (occasionally) reasoned sleuthing.

This notion that ‘nobody knows what they’re taking about’ because the photo is at an “acute angle” ignores that everything in the photo is taken at the same acute angle

Accordingly, the relative size of objects is roughly ascertainable. Looking again at this picture:

For present purposes I’ll ignore that I feel I have a pretty good sense for any reasonable dimensions of a steering wheel, rearview mirror, a so-tied bandana, the depth of a window armrest, etc. - all of which could be judged relative in size to that console.

I’ll also ignore the plethora of front-on photos of the truck’s sculpted bucket seats (not common for 40/20/40 configurations) that appear to have no more than 10” between them.

And instead I’ll only point to what to me is a glaring indication of size of that center console:

I assume, reasonably, that those are two cupholders. And I assume, reasonably, that Tesla proposes only usefully-sized cupholders. From there I can defer to my experience with the jumpseat in any 40/20/40 configured seating in a full-sized pickup, across makes:

And at some point I form a reasonable inference about the CT cupholders relative to the size of the overall CT console: if betting, I’d bet a good amount against it being wide enough to suggest a 40/20/40 configuration.

I’d then additionally:

• remember that full sized trucks that do have 40/20/40 seats do not tend to have competitively sizable/comfortable driver’s/passenger’s seats, much less bucket seats (and while Tesla does have remarkably lithe seats, the CT shown has nonetheless plush looking bucket seats)

• note that all the above inferences also square with what a Tesla rep stationed to monitor and socialize the truck told multiple attendees (which if he shared unauthorized and unscripted info makes both him an idiot for talking despite his NDAs, and Tesla an idiot for choosing him for that position - which altogether seems too surprising to believe easily)

• [and, admittedly, be forced to still secretly give some credence to my similar estimations of the relative size of the steering wheel, bandana, etc.]

… to an altogether seemingly reasonable inference that this console appears unlikely to be a jumpseat, or to have the footprint necessary to substitute in a jumpseat (much less between two bucket seats)

I wouldn’t bet my firstborn’s life on it, but I would think it defensible enough for purposes of an online forum about an automobile.

I agree with your analysis. It’s unfortunate that they appear to have moved away from having the interior space of a full size truck.

I am unsure if this is the result of unique engineering considerations for the cybertruck (i.e. same standard ~80 inch width as a full size truck, but a thicker door/b-pillar due to the exoskeleton design), or listening too closely to the Tesla community who wanted a smaller truck, or possibly some other reason (Elon mentioned Boring Tunnel size constraints).

They may lose out on the opportunity to tap into the much larger full size truck market segment as a result. Those buyers likely expect spacious interiors. The original prototype had a wide center console that could flip up to function as a jumpseat. This wide jumpseat/center console is shown in the first two pictures below:

The latest version on display has a visibly smaller center console, aligning more with a midsize truck.

The prototype/alpha/beta have evolved a great deal over the last few years. I hope the final version will have a full size interior and six seats as advertised on the website as this could be a missed opportunity for such a special truck.

 

[Dids]

If it doesn't travel in the raised position.... Why is is tapered at the front bottom? If no person can sit there why is the wall protecting the pedals not a solid storage console under the dash?
The only source for the 5 seat is someone who guards the truck said so to someone on Twitter. I heard this reported by @greggertruck maybe he knows who actually posted that info on Twitter. Do we know if they were actually there at giga Texas?
But it would be very much like Tesla to not add something that they think will not be used much. And six seats will not be used much in a truck.

 

[Ehninger1212]

No one has 'Final Ordered' nor configured anything yet.

The Pre-Order (Reservation) is simply a tentative agreement to purchase giving you a place in line, but you may want to review the actual Pre-Order agreement sent to you by TESLA when you made your CT reservation. The first statements in the document explain that actual configuration is to be confirmed at a later date:

But these recent ßeta Cybertruck versions seen may not yet be the final Production Versions, even though they're probably close. There could be some options (including front seat layout) that many of us still do not know about.

- ÆCIII

You might as well just post this on every thread in this forum.

 

[TAP1A]

I agree with your analysis. It’s unfortunate that they appear to have moved away from having the interior space of a full size truck.

I am unsure if this is the result of unique engineering considerations for the cybertruck (i.e. same standard ~80 inch width as a full size truck, but a thicker door/b-pillar due to the exoskeleton design), or listening too closely to the Tesla community who wanted a smaller truck, or possibly some other reason (Elon mentioned Boring Tunnel size constraints).

They may lose out on the opportunity to tap into the much larger full size truck market segment as a result. Those buyers likely expect spacious interiors. The original prototype had a wide center console that could flip up to function as a jumpseat. This wide jumpseat/center console is shown in the first two pictures below:

The latest version on display has a visibly smaller center console, aligning more with a midsize truck.

The prototype/alpha/beta have evolved a great deal over the last few years. I hope the final version will have a full size interior and six seats as advertised on the website as this could be a missed opportunity for such a special truck.

I agree with you on the size but I saw this thing in person during last years shareholder meeting in Aug and it was massive. like massive that when you see it in person it shocks you from how big it is. this was also the original prototype with handles that I saw. so I hope that 5% decrease does take away from that massive look but I can't see 5% being that big of a noticeable difference.

 

[greggertruck]

If it doesn't travel in the raised position.... Why is is tapered at the front bottom? If no person can sit there why is the wall protecting the pedals not a solid storage console under the dash?
The only source for the 5 seat is someone who guards the truck said so to someone on Twitter. I heard this reported by @greggertruck maybe he knows who actually posted that info on Twitter. Do we know if they were actually there at giga Texas?
But it would be very much like Tesla to not add something that they think will not be used much. And six seats will not be used much in a truck.

My source was there, he will be sharing dimensions soon too.

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