My biggest issue with Cybertruck... steer by wire 😉

[CT4ME]

After a month of SBW, jumped in our MY. Turning left out of the driveway I almost turned into oncoming traffic. Be careful out there.... Love it. My son, who told me it was ugly when I placed the reservation, now tells everyone he sees it's the best drive he's ever been in. Driving a CT can change perspective immediately.

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[mongo]

Along with SBW we have one pedal driving, four wheel steering, triple rear facing cameras, and swipe to shift.
I had a strong dislike of U or three point turns on two lane roads with our Explorer. Now it's just: foot off, swipe, reverse into a driveway using screen, swipe, go.
Versus: brake to stop, shift, throttle while checking mirrors, brake, shift, throttle

 

[carsly]

Along with SBW we have one pedal driving, four wheel steering, triple rear facing cameras, and swipe to shift.
I had a strong dislike of U or three point turns on two lane roads with our Explorer. Now it's just: foot off, swipe, reverse into a driveway using screen, swipe, go.
Versus: brake to stop, shift, throttle while checking mirrors, brake, shift, throttle

The auto-detection on shifting isn't bad. Not perfect, but getting better. So you're starting to be able to even skip the swipes on the screen ;-)

 

[Celiboy]

Makes you almost sad for the people bashing the CT. What everyone said, and this thing is pretty amazing!

I don’t feel sad or bad for them. They regurgitate ? they hear on the internet without first hand experience as though they know this truck inside and out. If it’s an CT owner with a complaint, ok then, that’s their experience so bash away. Fu*k everyone else.

 

[JackCypher]

...is that it's quite difficult to return to driving a non-Cybertruck, no joke. I

took my Honda Pilot to get gas and it took me a good few minutes to adjust to turning, and turning, and turning the steering wheel. I almost drove into the grass on my first turn as I hadn't steered enough. WTF is that? Same issue with driving any non-Cybertruck, the constant spinning of the steering wheel feels as anachronistic as a manual choke or hand cranking windows. Something is definitely wrong with all these non-Cybertrucks, it shouldn't take that much input to get the vehicle turning. It felt like a computer mouse or trackpad that is set to low sensitivity so you're swiping and swiping to get the dang cursor to move.

I'm hoping all future Teslas have the progressive steering because I can't go back to that cranking and cranking. It just ain't right.

I had the SAME Experience!... I wish someone was recording me...I was alone in a manual trans and manual steering car...I almost hit the garage door from not turning the wheel enough to turn..and almost rolled into the door - because it did NOT regen brake when I lifted the gas!...[you have to hit the brake pedal too ]

I was laughing and cussing at myself to 'steer the F*in car and hit the F*in brakes...!' ...i had a great laugh...

So yes the CT is the future...

 

[Cam Salazar]

My guess is that SBW engineering validation in the real world was quite rigorous.

SBW was not implemented for cost savings as I am confident that all of the part numbers add up to more expense than a conventional steering system.

Tesla was forced to implement SBW because the long wheelbase would have made the Cybertruck unwieldy during parking and U-turn maneuvers.

The reason why Steer By Wire was implemented for the Cybertruck, was because it has en exoskeleton, so that all the batteries fit nicely where a huge steel truck frame would otherwise be. And so to fit all those batteries the wheelbase needed to be stretched out which inadvertently gives the CT good approach and departure angles, which are necessary for offroad specialy being that the CT is so low. So what this means is that when you have such a long wheelbase, you sacrifice manuverability which makes it more dificult to park or u-turn. So to solve this problem, 4-wheel steering was added, but because the truck is so low and full of batteries and motors and an exoskeleton...the only way to bring steering to the rear wheels was electronically (as opposed to conventional mechanical methods) So SBW was a must! And clearly it didn't just solve inherent design problems, but it has revolutionized steering altogether, this steering technology is so far superior to conventional steering, than once the masses get a taste of it, all auto manufacturers will have to follow suit to stay relevant.

 

[mongo]

The reason why Steer By Wire was implemented for the Cybertruck, was because it has en exoskeleton, so that all the batteries fit nicely where a huge steel truck frame would otherwise be. And so to fit all those batteries the wheelbase needed to be stretched out which inadvertently gives the CT good approach and departure angles, which are necessary for offroad specialy being that the CT is so low. So what this means is that when you have such a long wheelbase, you sacrifice manuverability which makes it more dificult to park or u-turn. So to solve this problem, 4-wheel steering was added, but because the truck is so low and full of batteries and motors and an exoskeleton...the only way to bring steering to the rear wheels was electronically (as opposed to conventional mechanical methods) So SBW was a must! And clearly it didn't just solve inherent design problems, but it has revolutionized steering altogether, this steering technology is so far superior to conventional steering, than once the masses get a taste of it, all auto manufacturers will have to follow suit to stay relevant.

I'm not sure that's the reason.

Cybertruck wheelbase is 143.11 inches
That's 2 inches shorter than the F-150 SuperCab/6.5-Foot Bed and SuperCrew/5.5-Foot Bed which are 145.4 inches

Cybertruck length is 223.74 inches which is 8 inches shorter than those F-150s which are 231.7 inches.
So basically, Cybertruck has 6 inches less overhang on a 2 inch shorter wheelbase, that's inherently more manuverable (than typical trucks).

They could have used steer by wire for only the rear wheels, like GM does.

 

[asriggs1987]

I just got a Moe X loaner with the yolk and words cannot describe how much I hate it after driving my CT the last 2 months. It’s SO bad.

 

[MisterChilidog]

...is that it's quite difficult to return to driving a non-Cybertruck, no joke. I

took my Honda Pilot to get gas and it took me a good few minutes to adjust to turning, and turning, and turning the steering wheel. I almost drove into the grass on my first turn as I hadn't steered enough. WTF is that? Same issue with driving any non-Cybertruck, the constant spinning of the steering wheel feels as anachronistic as a manual choke or hand cranking windows. Something is definitely wrong with all these non-Cybertrucks, it shouldn't take that much input to get the vehicle turning. It felt like a computer mouse or trackpad that is set to low sensitivity so you're swiping and swiping to get the dang cursor to move.

I'm hoping all future Teslas have the progressive steering because I can't go back to that cranking and cranking. It just ain't right.

My wife and I have been suffering the same problem. Now, when we both need to go different places, at the same time, it's a race to get to the Cybertruck first. Driving other vehicles now feels unsafe.

 

[Sxksxk]

...is that it's quite difficult to return to driving a non-Cybertruck, no joke. I

took my Honda Pilot to get gas and it took me a good few minutes to adjust to turning, and turning, and turning the steering wheel. I almost drove into the grass on my first turn as I hadn't steered enough. WTF is that? Same issue with driving any non-Cybertruck, the constant spinning of the steering wheel feels as anachronistic as a manual choke or hand cranking windows. Something is definitely wrong with all these non-Cybertrucks, it shouldn't take that much input to get the vehicle turning. It felt like a computer mouse or trackpad that is set to low sensitivity so you're swiping and swiping to get the dang cursor to move.

I'm hoping all future Teslas have the progressive steering because I can't go back to that cranking and cranking. It just ain't right.

Lol I drove my CT for two weeks straight and then drove my Yukon XL and nearly ran into a curb. Steer by wire was an easy adjustment but going back to classic is awful.

 

[ScouterJohn]

I guess I'm still a savage neanderthal then. While I do love the SBW system, after about 3,000 miles on the CT - TBH I restarted making my daily 90 mile commute in the Model Y Performance.

Why?

Commuting is -
a) boring
b) tiring
c) dangerous (at least until my CT gets FSD or at least lane holding)

I still love the CT on weekends and other errands, but to me the lack of FSD feels far more ancient and primitive.

Can't wait for 12.5!!!

@DaBagBoy I could not agree more! I would swap except I traded in my 9 year old S that actually drove well on the highway (with it's one front camera and hardware 0.5) so I'm stuck being a neanderthal doing that old fashioned thing called "actually driving!" It is dangerous.

 

[wshunter]

...is that it's quite difficult to return to driving a non-Cybertruck, no joke. I

took my Honda Pilot to get gas and it took me a good few minutes to adjust to turning, and turning, and turning the steering wheel. I almost drove into the grass on my first turn as I hadn't steered enough. WTF is that? Same issue with driving any non-Cybertruck, the constant spinning of the steering wheel feels as anachronistic as a manual choke or hand cranking windows. Something is definitely wrong with all these non-Cybertrucks, it shouldn't take that much input to get the vehicle turning. It felt like a computer mouse or trackpad that is set to low sensitivity so you're swiping and swiping to get the dang cursor to move.

I'm hoping all future Teslas have the progressive steering because I can't go back to that cranking and cranking. It just ain't right.

Yep. Me too! The yoke on my airplane was like that. 45 deg and you are doing some serious turning!

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