Steer by Wire... Steer by Braking??

BigAl

Well-known member
First Name
Al
Joined
May 17, 2020
Threads
10
Messages
249
Reaction score
534
Location
Texas
Vehicles
CyberTruck
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
I need help understanding this. In the newly released Top Gear interview @ 14:44, he mentions all the new tech that had to be implemented into the CT. He said "...Steer by Wire, Steer by braking..." Do any of you think he meant to say " Steer by wire, Brake by wire???

Just asking...

Sponsored

 

Jumpman

New member
Joined
Aug 10, 2020
Threads
0
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Location
Rocket City USA
Vehicles
Mini Cooper SE, Honda Ridgeline, Acura NSX
Country flag
Maybe he's referring to a torque vectoring type system?
 

CyberOwl

Well-known member
First Name
Ace
Joined
Jun 5, 2020
Threads
7
Messages
134
Reaction score
311
Location
Big Sur California
Vehicles
Foundation Series AWD, Model 3 RWD, Nissan Leaf
Occupation
Foul Owl
Country flag
Great question, I was wondering the same thing. Really hoping he meant brake by wire šŸ¤ž although steer by braking is a curious term. Anyone catch the ā€˜air benderā€™ description? šŸ¤Æ

PS Would it be possible to use the mechanical diff to regen steer? Like recapture energy from inside wheel by engaging diff in a turn? Seems possible, but canā€™t quite wrap my head around it
 
Last edited:
First Name
Paul
Joined
Feb 22, 2021
Threads
0
Messages
19
Reaction score
14
Location
San Antonio, TX
Vehicles
Tesla Model Y, Toyota Sienna, Pleasure-way RV
Occupation
Air Force Officer (ret), Investor, E-Commerce
Country flag
I think it means apply brake on one side to send power to opposite side, thereby vectoring, for front or rear "axle" on dual-motor and just front wheels on tri-motor since rear will have independent motor vectoring.
 


OP
OP
BigAl

BigAl

Well-known member
First Name
Al
Joined
May 17, 2020
Threads
10
Messages
249
Reaction score
534
Location
Texas
Vehicles
CyberTruck
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
Many cars have this feature already, nothing new.
In what aspect? Brake by wire is newā€¦ if you know of vehicles already utilizing it, please share. Brembo Sensify is what Iā€™m eluding to.
 

cybercoffee

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 6, 2023
Threads
4
Messages
202
Reaction score
223
Location
Los Angeles
Vehicles
MYLR
Country flag
Great question, I was wondering the same thing. Really hoping he meant brake by wire šŸ¤ž although steer by braking is a curious term. Anyone catch the ā€˜air benderā€™ description? šŸ¤Æ

PS Would it be possible to use the mechanical diff to regen steer? Like recapture energy from inside wheel by engaging diff in a turn? Seems possible, but canā€™t quite wrap my head around it
I interpreted it as he was speaking fast and actually meant brake by wire.
 

Fugue

Active member
Joined
Nov 28, 2022
Threads
2
Messages
36
Reaction score
117
Location
USA
Vehicles
Model Y LR FSD, camper van, CT3 FSD preordered
Occupation
Tech Industry Grunt
Country flag
OP
OP
BigAl

BigAl

Well-known member
First Name
Al
Joined
May 17, 2020
Threads
10
Messages
249
Reaction score
534
Location
Texas
Vehicles
CyberTruck
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
In what aspect? Brake by wire is newā€¦ if you know of vehicles already utilizing it, please share. Brembo Sensify is what Iā€™m eluding to.
So I just watched the live stream with Chris and Kyle, and Kyle said there are many brake by wire, but itā€™s new for Bremboā€¦ ā€œSensifyā€
 

VR Driving

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 25, 2022
Threads
13
Messages
304
Reaction score
462
Location
Canada
Vehicles
Tesla Model 3
Country flag
Mercedes had Brake by wire back in the early 2000s, steer-by-brake is just brake torque vectoring, which has been featured on many sports cars for over a decade.
 


Keeney

Well-known member
First Name
Rick
Joined
Dec 11, 2019
Threads
19
Messages
538
Reaction score
699
Location
Minnesota
Vehicles
F150 Lightning Pro
Country flag
Many tractors have steering by braking (using two brake pedals). Its kind of awesome for turning radius and other tricky spots in off-road situations.
 

scottyah

Well-known member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Dec 14, 2022
Threads
5
Messages
179
Reaction score
318
Location
San Diego, CA
Vehicles
Mountaineer
Country flag
In what aspect? Brake by wire is newā€¦ if you know of vehicles already utilizing it, please share. Brembo Sensify is what Iā€™m eluding to.
Jason Cammisa said the Lucid does it, they do regen braking on the inside wheels during sharp turns. Apparently it's better than any Tesla handling so it'd be cool to see it for the first time in a cybertruck. I assume it's mechanical otherwise they could have sent it out via a software update
 

mgarciaknight

Member
First Name
MG
Joined
Aug 24, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
17
Reaction score
21
Location
TerraX
Vehicles
JLU80, HD Deluxe, HD Sportster
Occupation
Consultant
Country flag
Its like the original big wheel that we had as kids. It had the brake on the rear wheel and when you would go and brake fast it would spin you. Now imagine tesla computers braking certain tires to facilitate a turn.
Tesla Cybertruck Steer by Wire... Steer by Braking?? IMG_9153
 
OP
OP
BigAl

BigAl

Well-known member
First Name
Al
Joined
May 17, 2020
Threads
10
Messages
249
Reaction score
534
Location
Texas
Vehicles
CyberTruck
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
That would be something if it were true. Guess weā€™ll have to wait till someone dives in on it.
 

JBee

Well-known member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 22, 2019
Threads
18
Messages
4,774
Reaction score
6,148
Location
Australia
Vehicles
Cybertruck
Occupation
. Professional Hobbyist
Country flag
That would be something if it were true. Guess weā€™ll have to wait till someone dives in on it.
Every car with ESP/Stability assist does steer by brake.

It's a common misconception that the tyre patch steering orientation is the only thing that make vehicle turn. ESP on most cars can pull a car in the opposite direction of the steering angle, by simply braking on the side they want to go. Any cars with brake by wire actually accelerate on the outside to "tank turn" while you are skidding. It's the effective RPM difference of the contact patch of the tyre that makes you turn, not just the angle of steering.
Sponsored

 
 




Top