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The reason we've not seen the frunk as yet is because most of that space is filled with equipment, like thermal management, air compressor tank, etc. I'm sure the prototype was using off-the-shelf components and therefore had little leftover space. Watch Sandy Munro's teardowns, and you'll see that making space for the frunk requires tight integration of the components.

For this reason, I am skeptical that we will be getting a Lightning-style frunk. Ford kept the expansive hood and engine compartment of the original F150, so they had plenty of room to work with. Cybertruck...not so much.
Someone needs to do the math on 100 cubic feet of storage and how it would be divided up.
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The reason we've not seen the frunk as yet is because most of that space is filled with equipment, like thermal management, air compressor tank, etc. I'm sure the prototype was using off-the-shelf components and therefore had little leftover space. Watch Sandy Munro's teardowns, and you'll see that making space for the frunk requires tight integration of the components.

For this reason, I am skeptical that we will be getting a Lightning-style frunk. Ford kept the expansive hood and engine compartment of the original F150, so they had plenty of room to work with. Cybertruck...not so much.
The interior space under the glass is going to be a lot more then an f150 because of the sloped glass so I would think a lot of the equipment you mention would occupy more of that space and less of the 'frunk' area.
Just my guess though.

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The interior space under the glass is going to a lot more then an f150 because of the sloped glass so I would think a lot of the equipment you mention would occupy more of that space and less of the 'frunk' area.
Just my guess though.

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I didn’t see any seams in the pictures of the latest CT in that area. Maybe they didn’t put the doors on this prototype, maybe the seams are there but I didn’t see them. Maybe that area is accessed differently now (from inside the vault?) or, maybe (unlikely) that space is no longer available to the user.
When I walked the original CT at the Peterson museum in LA you could clearly see the seem that told me it was an operable panel.
 

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Tool boxes and secure storage are some of the biggest after market accessories in the truck market. Maybe more than lumber racks.

Doesn’t mean your truck is not useful.

The fact that you don’t want it doesn’t mean it’s not desirable to a lot of people either.
I took issue with the idea that all trucks need lots of little storage pockets to be useful. Trucks used for hauling bulk materials generally don't have large tool boxes in the bed. It's fine to build in storage compartments, I'm just saying that they are not required for the truck to be useful. Which is what the claim was.
 


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Tie down straps, tow rope, chains, misc tools for work, etc., you like to have those rolling around your cab all the time? transporting stuff is literally the reason trucks exist. having options for storage is not necessary?
No, storage pockets are not neccessary for a work truck to be useful. It depends on how the truck is to be used. As I've pointed out, my F-150 has zero outside accessible stash pockets and it lacks a frunk too. It's the best selling truck in America, in part because of it's versatility. If you want a bunch of storage pockets you can add them. The Cybertruck will have plenty of aftermarket toolbox options too.

That said, I bet the Cybertruck has some storage built-in that uses otherwise wasted space. Which is fine by me and even welcome. I was just saying it's not necessary for the truck to be functional. I would wager more real work was accomplished with trucks before they became a suburban fashion accessory and before "stash pockets" hit the scene than all the trucks put together with stash pockets.
 

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I often see pickup trucks with piles of useless junk in the bed. Having better storage will free the bed for higher purposes, but doesn't change the fact that you're hauling useless junk around.
 

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I took issue with the idea that all trucks need lots of little storage pockets to be useful. Trucks used for hauling bulk materials generally don't have large tool boxes in the bed. It's fine to build in storage compartments, I'm just saying that they are not required for the truck to be useful. Which is what the claim was.
Agree. On all parts. Trucks ARE super useful without sail pillar storage. For some people (Me), they are a bit more useful with it. That’s it.
 

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I'd hate to see wasted space..

If we lose structural integrity with a sail, then maybe reinforce the tray. It would add expense, but the structure is there.

Alternatively, and it's gotta be at least this.. Just have access from the inside.
 


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Joking aside.. seems to make more sense to have the access to any tucked away storage compartment like that.. on the inside of the bed. So that its inaccessible with the vault cover down, and the outer exoskeleton has one less weak point.
 

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Joking aside.. seems to make more sense to have the access to any tucked away storage compartment like that.. on the inside of the bed. So that its inaccessible with the vault cover down, and the outer exoskeleton has one less weak point.
If it weakens the exoskeleton then they should do what they need to make the exoskeleton strong.

Aside from that, it doesn’t make any sense to have it on the inside. You’d have to climb up into the vault area to access it. That kind of sucks for a lot of uses. It has to latch regardless so it’s going to be secure one way or the other.
 

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Structurally it would be better to use the bed side wall for the exoskeleton anyway as it is closer to the load. That will mean the outside panel can have the non-structural opening flap. Also the door only has to cover the sail opening for looks, but the opening can be smaller or divided for more strength underneath.

In general most of the rigidity for the load will be transferred straight from the bed floor into the rear cast and suspension. So those rear panels will likely be more for torsional rigidity and not load carrying as such.

If you want I can calculate the storage volumes from my CAD drawing.
 

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In general most of the rigidity for the load will be transferred straight from the bed floor into the rear cast and suspension. So those rear panels will likely be more for torsional rigidity and not load carrying as such.
That doesn't make any sense because a heavy load increases the need for torsional rigidity. No, the load doesn't get transferred directly into the rear cast and suspension. A portion of the load is transferred to the front wheels and, on uneven ground, you had better bet your pickle 3500 lbs. is going to need some serious torsional rigidity.
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