Tesla says it won't honor retroactive Full Self-Driving FSD pricing for discontinued models

[Cybertruckee]

You could force single/tri motor people to migrate up 1 motor to a dual/quad upgrade. Offer them free FSD in compensation as a take-it-or-cancel deal.

Tesla can do it without costing them anything by just annoying them by making them wait forever until they drop off or upgrade.

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[Dusty]

Tesla can do it without costing them anything by just annoying them by making them wait forever until they drop off or upgrade.

I think that'd be a bad move considering their goal is to break into a market of ICE holdouts and people set in their ways. I'm sure they know that a lot of CT reservations are from people who are experiencing Tesla for the first time. Having an apprehensive person interact with your company for the first time and they give you $100. In return you then make them wait another year or two, then turn around, piss in their Wheaties, and give them their $100 back.

That wouldn't exactly be a solid business move.

 

[Cybertruckee]

I think that'd be a bad move considering their goal is to break into a market of ICE holdouts and people set in their ways. I'm sure they know that a lot of CT reservations are from people who are experiencing Tesla for the first time. Having an apprehensive person interact with your company for the first time and they give you $100. In return you then make them wait another year or two, then turn around, piss in their Wheaties, and give them their $100 back.

That wouldn't exactly be a solid business move.

With the narcissistic and arrogant Elon and 1 million reservations, I'm not so sure.

 

[GnarlyDudeLive]

I think that'd be a bad move considering their goal is to break into a market of ICE holdouts and people set in their ways. I'm sure they know that a lot of CT reservations are from people who are experiencing Tesla for the first time. Having an apprehensive person interact with your company for the first time and they give you $100. In return you then make them wait another year or two, then turn around, piss in their Wheaties, and give them their $100 back.

That wouldn't exactly be a solid business move.

I tend to agree. Tesla not doing advertising or having a PR department it is of upmost importance to have its customers happy, engaged, and telling stories of upmost grandeur for them as it is the customers that replace the ad/pr functions.

 

[Tinker71]

No.

It doesn't come from Tesla's bottom line - it comes from the pockets of their investors.

-Crissa

At the end of the day it is a cost of doing business for the investor so a reduction in profits. Which they try to make up. I really appreciate Elons drive and vision but I think Tesla should promote some other talented staff. Just in case something happens or Elon gets burnout. Everyone should be replaceable and one guy shouldn't need billions per year in compensation

 

[Crissa]

That is untrue.

Using a retired well head is not 'drilling for natural gas'.

-Crissa

 

[NewTruckGuy]

Question on Quad variant of CyberTruck. Model 'Y' Standard Range RWD reservations holders were informed that any reservations (and the pricing they agreed to when they put down their deposit) they had will not be honored by Tesla and will have to upgrade to the more expensive Long Range AWD Model 'Y' version. Secondly, Tesla said it will not honor the price for FSD when they made their initial reservation for the Standard Range RWD. With Tesla doing that, it begs the question on what CyberTruck reservation holders will encounter. I'm a tri-motor CyberTruck reservation holder (the day after the CyberTruck came out). My fear (hopefully misplaced) is Tesla may not offer the single or tri-motor configuration when production starts and only offer the dual or quad versions. From a manufacturing/configuration management/and perhaps cost standpoint, I can understand that direction (from that point of view). But, to not honor (and it would seems Tesla is not legally obligated to do so) the FSD pricing and costing the customer more because they will have to upgrade to the higher variant/version of the CyberTruck plus the added pricing of FSD, just makes for bad PR. I see, if that scenario plays out, that as being a huge misstep on Tesla's part especially with more available choices coming to market.

 

[Tinker71]

I wish people would be a little smarter than this and look at total environmental cost.

Space X will use a large volume of methane regardless. They might as well get it close to where they are going to use it.

Elon has set the stage to rid ourselves of hydrocarbon GHG dependency. Some methane used for the space industry and his goal to give humanity some options in space is a drop in the bucket and is worth it.

I really don't think Space X is going to sell any of this. With current tech methane generated from natural gas is a necessary evil.

 

[CyberGus]

In this case, Tesla has not eliminated a specific model. It's more like the Cybertruck and Cyberquad were in a transporter accident

 

[happy intruder]

In this case, Tesla has not eliminated a specific model. It's more like the Cybertruck and Cyberquad were in a transporter accident

well they could just keep all orders for CT3 and accept no more for CT3....the all new orders will be CT4.....that way CT 3 reservation holders get the tri-motor and new orders will have quad motors.....that way everyone will be happy

maybe thats why they took ordering for Cybertruck off the web...

 

[Dusty]

well they could just keep all orders for CT3 and accept no more for CT3....the all new orders will be CT4.....that way CT 3 reservation holders get the tri-motor and new orders will have quad motors...

That's not how manufacturing works. Making a tri-motor CT isn't a case of "For this one, just don't put that fourth motor on it." ...And one wheel is just free spinning on a hub. You'd have to engineer the assembly, Have a differential, suspension changes, brake assembly work, get the factory line tooled correctly, get the resulting installation parts, train workers, edit software, and on and on. Worst of all that adds TIME.

In the end it would cost everyone more for a lesser variant. I'm in agreement with fewer variants. And, just me, I've always been happiest getting my vehicles at the top tier at my own personal price point. I'd rather live day to day with more vehicle than I need than a vehicle I occasionally need or want more from.

 

[happy intruder]

That's not how manufacturing works. Making a tri-motor CT isn't a case of "For this one, just don't put that fourth motor on it." ...And one wheel is just free spinning on a hub. You'd have to engineer the assembly, Have a differential, suspension changes, brake assembly work, get the factory line tooled correctly, get the resulting installation parts, train workers, edit software, and on and on. Worst of all that adds TIME.

In the end it would cost everyone more for a lesser variant. I'm in agreement with fewer variants. And, just me, I've always been happiest getting my vehicles at the top tier at my own personal price point. I'd rather live day to day with more vehicle than I need than a vehicle I occasionally need or want more from.

thats why they have in-line changes and modifications.......change from CT3 to CT4

 

[JayLucas]

ByJoey Klender
Posted on December 15, 2021

Tesla is communicating to customers who have ordered now-discontinued variants of vehicles that it will not honor retroactive pricing of the Full Self-Driving suite to when they reserved their vehicle.

In February, Teslarati reported that Tesla would not produce the Model Y Long Range Rear-Wheel-Drive variant. CEO Elon Musk later stated that the reason was that Tesla has “too much product complexity already.” However, Tesla had originally planned to honor the price of the FSD suite when customers had reserved their vehicles. For example, if the FSD suite was priced at $7,000 at the time of the reservation, Tesla would only charge the customer $7,000, despite its current $10,000 price tag. This was confirmed by Tesla employees in February.

Tesla officially eliminated the Model Y Long Range RWD earlier this month, finally communicating to reservation holders that it had no plans to produce the vehicle. Tesla advised Model Y LR RWD reservation holders to revise their orders by choosing a vehicle that it currently produces and pay the additional price, as Tesla’s vehicle prices have increased since then.

“We’re contacting you regarding your Model Y order [VIN] placed on March 15, 2019. We’d like to help you update your configuration, as we do not build the configuration you originally selected. We’re excited to support you through the process and deliver your reconfigured Model Y at your earliest convenience,” Tesla wrote in an email on December 8th to one Model Y reservation holder, who agreed to pay the additional cost of the vehicle but requested a retroactive FSD pricing as a small discount for having to choose a new vehicle over two-and-a-half years after placing the order.

“I tried to update the design, but the price jumped $20,000! And full-self-driving is now $10K, when I first reserved it, it was less than half that price. Can TESLA honor my original price for FSD since I’m an early adopter?” the reservation holder asked.

However, the reservation holder, who asked to remain anonymous, was told by Tesla staff that the company would not be honoring any old pricing.

“Thank you for your note. We will not be honoring any previous pricing. Once you update your configuration it will update to the current pricing,” a Tesla employee told the reservation holder in an emailed statement.

Tesla did not immediately respond for comment.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-will-not-honor-retroactive-full-self-driving-pricing-model-y/

I agree that some may be disappointed; but current reports on the success of FSD betas make me very nervous about trusting my life, and that of my loved ones, to its skill in driving. I'm probably going to take a pass on FSD, or at most just subscribe to it.

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