Tesla's Cybertruck VIN Activation Tracker (NOT Customer VIN Allocations)

[cvalue13]

You are basically saying that buyers are not satisfied because they believe the "urban myth" that buying cars is a bad experience.

no I’m not

I’m saying I suspect buyers are saying they’re not satisfied for a mixture of various reasons, each unclear in their relative magnitude, and among the reasons appear to be several that possibly reflect more on the buyers than the dealerships.

that is a very different point than the one you attribute to me

AND, I’m separately saying that people who come in saying in effect “everyone knows Tesla’s way is better in all respects” appear to me to ignore the cacophony of even Tesla loyalists to variously express frustrations and disappointment in Tesla’s model.


all of which, to me, comports with a basic universal truth regarding such convos:

both models have their strengths and weaknesses, both models have areas they can and should improve, and an individual’s preferences for either model will depend on the circumstance.

As a result, I’m suspect of anyone whose world view is so confidently reduced down to a platitude like “traditional dealers bad, Tesla’s good.”

especially because, those same folks tend to go on and evidence a very rudimentary and uninformed agility with the way these two different business models work in practice.

Afterall, it’s no accident they both continue to exist in the marketplace, and both continue to adapt to market pressures.

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[cgladue]

i for one would rather have a known quantity of bullshit from tesla thent he ever changing and endless supply of bullshit from a dealer

 

[GuyV]

yep, because Tesla makes so much off of you on each car they sell, that there’s no need - customers just line up to give Tesla much more net margin on each vehicle than elsewhere, wirhout even questioning if it’s a good thing! Tesla’s told them it is, must be true!


Obviously the overall dynamics are more complex and multi-factorial than all that, but just to make the point that sometimes people appear to shout proudly about how, on one hand, they hate how traditional dealers squeeze money out of them, and much prefer just bending over and giving whatever Tesla wants because at least they have the comfort everyone’s getting the same buggering!

Tesla reports its profit margins, dealers try to hide them.

There's a big difference in posting a price and letting the buyer decide to just order it if and when they think it's worth it to them than the strong arm "salesmanship" tactics, advertising gimmicks and hidden ad-on costs dealers use. Of course you are aware of all that, imagine you are a superior negotiator and believe you always come out ahead on every deal. ?

 

[GuyV]

no I’m not

I’m saying I suspect buyers are saying they’re not satisfied for a mixture of various reasons, each unclear in their relative magnitude, and among the reasons appear to be several that possibly reflect more on the buyers than the dealerships.

that is a very different point than the one you attribute to me

AND, I’m separately saying that people who come in saying in effect “everyone knows Tesla’s way is better in all respects” appear to me to ignore the cacophony of even Tesla loyalists to variously express frustrations and disappointment in Tesla’s model.


all of which, to me, comports with a basic universal truth regarding such convos:

both models have their strengths and weaknesses, both models have areas they can and should improve, and an individual’s preferences for either model will depend on the circumstance.

As a result, I’m suspect of anyone whose world view is so confidently reduced down to a platitude like “traditional dealers bad, Tesla’s good.”

especially because, those same folks tend to go on and evidence a very rudimentary and uninformed agility with the way these two different business models work in practice.

Afterall, it’s no accident they both continue to exist in the marketplace, and both continue to adapt to market pressures.

Certainly Tesla has issues to deal with in its sales model as well. It is challenged in recruiting, training and supervising its people to meet its targeted standards. This results in an apparently large disparity between customer satisfaction from one location to another. Among the things they have to fight are rapid growth and competition for capable people. Not paying commission to sales people is a handicap in that regard.

When it is working as it should though it is a far better experience for most customers who aren't interested in playing the game, knowing it is heavily stacked in favor of those who play it professionally each and every workday.

 

[cybercoffee]

I haven’t been able to keep up with all fifty-plus pages—is there an active VIN production-registration tracker still or no? Thanks @cvalue13

 

[TXCYBRTK]

I haven’t been able to keep up with all fifty-plus pages—is there an active VIN production-registration tracker still or no? Thanks @cvalue13

I wish, but no.

 

[Defiant]

I came to this thread to find out if there’d been any new updates on the VIN tracking. The past, several pages have been dominated by unrelated posts.

It’s challenging when someone disagrees with us about our life experiences compared to theirs. Both can be correct and sometimes that’s hard to admit.

I believe it makes it a lot more enjoyable, when all users can come to site, find a thread they’re interested in, browse or participate in it without those threads getting overly derailed.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with subject matter that differs from the thread title, but it would be great if it goes very far just to take it to a new thread please.

Thank you very much

 

[Coltpete]

PLEASE TESLA SEND OUT YOUR VIN INFORMATION AGAIN SO WE CAN SAVE THIS THREAD

 

[LonelyCTfan]

What's funny is TSLA limiting access to information while claiming the government is doing the same..

 

[Bkb13]

I came here thinking there would be
more VIN info and all I read in the last handful of pages is about dealerships. Please create another thread. Let’s stay on topic!

 

[Demonvial]

Please stop with the off topic stuff, came here looking for more VIN info and it’s just pages of off topic nonsense

 

[SixZo]

so you already drove the truck? I asked because you mentioned you will be picking up next week...

Yeah, coworker of mine let me drive his AWD to lunch a couple of months ago, was super amazing. I thought it would take longer to adjust to steer-by-wire too!

Is your Cyberbeast VIN #420 or less? Im still waiting on a Dec 8 Cyberbeast VIN and will be picking up in the new Miramar delivery showroom.

It is under 420. Looking to pick it up next week once it finally arrives from Austin, TX

 

[cvalue13]

I haven’t been able to keep up with all fifty-plus pages—is there an active VIN production-registration tracker still or no? Thanks @cvalue13

for whatever reason, Tesla's recall website is still absent any information about any cybertruck

was merely strange when it went offline, it's now increasingly bizarre it's been offline this long

 

[Gracilis]

for whatever reason, Tesla's recall website is still absent any information about any cybertruck

was merely strange when it went offline, it's now increasingly bizarre it's been offline this long

I wonder how they’re doing it from a regulatory perspective. I would assume there’s a requirement to be able to search existing recalls by VIN for owners, but maybe that’s optional and manufacturers simply provide that service on their own goodwill.

Any idea if the recent OTA-update based recalls affected the CT? If not, then I’m going to guess the site will be down until the issue their first recall.

 

[cvalue13]

I wonder how they’re doing it from a regulatory perspective. I would assume there’s a requirement to be able to search existing recalls by VIN for owners, but maybe that’s optional and manufacturers simply provide that service on their own goodwill.

Since 2019, NHTSA requires all major automakers and motorcycle manufacturers to provide consumers with online access to recall information on vehicles searchable by VIN. This information must be updated at least weekly.

been discussing for some time that I believe these FS trucks are from a regulatory perspective treated not as a normal production vehicle

we’ve still not seen official EPA numbers, for example (we’ve also not seen crash test ratings, though that alone isn’t necessarily unusual this early in a release for this expensive a vehicle)


And if. from a regulatory perspective these FS units are treated not as a normal production vehicle, I believe that may also have some advantages to Tesla’s financials and accounting reporting

while difficult to say which is the cart and which is the horse, that Tesla extended FS beyond 1,000 units, may be because (feel free to flip the causation arrow) Tesla is not ready for the CT to be treated as being fully in production



Back to the warranty VIN submission: either Tesla’s VIN site is broken, but only for CT, and so Tesla is out of compliance with the NHTSA, or instead the CT is in a regulatory posture where Tesla isn’t required yet to provide this data on the CT - and so they decided to yank it

decided to yank it, perhaps, because this thread got a bit too visible to Tesla once their CT fanbois began socializing it on xwitter

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