Towing Camping Trailers

ldjessee

Well-known member
First Name
Lloyd
Joined
Apr 22, 2020
Messages
724
Reaction score
701
Location
Indiana, USA
Vehicles
reservation for 2 motor Cybertruck, Nissan Leaf, Subau Outback, Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Vaquero ABS
Occupation
programmer
Country flag
Slow down, dramatic improvement in range.

If I get 180 miles from my dual motor while towing or bed loaded/vault open, that is like 3 hours of driving (at slower speeds). Then taking a break for 30 to 45 minutes seems ok to me, but my personal needs/wants are not the same as everyone else.

I am also expecting many companies to create trailers that will fit into the frontal area 'shadow' of the Cybertruck, so that will help aerodynamics as well.
 

richardlpaul

Member
First Name
Rick
Joined
Jun 23, 2021
Messages
10
Reaction score
3
Location
Tucson
Vehicles
Model 3
Occupation
Engineer
Country flag
We can't know, but EVs don't have as much energy to waste as internal combustion vehicles.

EVs are already pretty heavy because of the battery pack. So that's never a problem.

The Trimotor is probably the best option for towing because if its double range. The Dual will be okay but won't be able to get too far from power.

-Crissa
I did some calculations on the dual motor with towing and even the dual motor can make it charger to charger across I-10. Also consider when towing a camper (I’m planning on getting an airstream) that you will often be stopping at campgrounds with 30 and 50 amp outlets that can charge the CT.
 

rr6013

Well-known member
First Name
Rex
Joined
Apr 22, 2020
Messages
577
Reaction score
491
Location
Piedras Gordas Panama
Website
shorttakes.substack.com
Vehicles
1997 Tahoe 2 door 4x4
Occupation
Retired software developer and heavy commercial design builder
Country flag
I did some calculations on the dual motor with towing and even the dual motor can make it charger to charger across I-10. Also consider when towing a camper (I’m planning on getting an airstream) that you will often be stopping at campgrounds with 30 and 50 amp outlets that can charge the CT.
Perhaps, missing in BEV is the flywheel effect ICE enjoy with rotating mass. Towing may push the flywheel back into use with a EV twist on momentum.
 

pagesix1536

Member
First Name
Chris
Joined
Apr 20, 2021
Messages
15
Reaction score
48
Location
Atlanta
Vehicles
2015 Nissan Leaf / 1969 Jeep DJ5
Country flag
Does anyone think that the range numbers we were given are WITH a payload or trailer weight? They stated the range of the Semitruck like that. Why would we be mislead with the Cybertruck to believe that it won't be able to tow at least the paylod capacity of 3500 lbs for 500 miles on one charge with the tri-motor?
 

Crissa

Well-known member
First Name
Crissa
Joined
Jul 8, 2020
Messages
5,088
Reaction score
6,274
Location
Santa Cruz
Vehicles
2014 Zero S, 2013 Mazda 3
Country flag
I did some calculations on the dual motor with towing and even the dual motor can make it charger to charger across I-10.
Yes, that's by design. But how much energy you lose to each trailer is still unknown; some will be exceedingly bad (like those toyhaulers that have the ramp sticking straight up in the air)

-Crissa
 

rr6013

Well-known member
First Name
Rex
Joined
Apr 22, 2020
Messages
577
Reaction score
491
Location
Piedras Gordas Panama
Website
shorttakes.substack.com
Vehicles
1997 Tahoe 2 door 4x4
Occupation
Retired software developer and heavy commercial design builder
Country flag
Does anyone think that the range numbers we were given are WITH a payload or trailer weight? They stated the range of the Semitruck like that. Why would we be mislead with the Cybertruck to believe that it won't be able to tow at least the paylod capacity of 3500 lbs for 500 miles on one charge with the tri-motor?
NOPE…you’re the first I’ve heard who thinks that specification was for a fully loaded maximum weighted vehicle range.

Why? IDK how anyone bridges from published mfgrs base specification to maximums. If the assertion is that Elon was leading the public to believe Tesla Cybertruck would tow 16000 lbs. AND go 500mi. on one charge… then its a small leap in imagination to assume Cybertruck could easily haul 3500lbs. 500mi on a single charge.

You obviously witnessed the Semi launch. I did not. Semi is a purpose-built and engineered truck that does only one thing - haul. When it is not hauling a trailer in-tow, a Semi with a trailer attached or not is “deadheading”. SO I believe that Elon would quote specifications for exactly that purpose which it was engineered not deadheading.

A pickup is dual-use not single purpose. It is empty or loaded. Pickups don’t deadhead. But similarly to a passenger car, pickup mfgr specifications normal and customary industry practice are quoted empty(i.e. curb weight) parked at a curb. In my lifetime, never have I known of an instance where a pickup specification referred to the pickup in its fully loaded maximum weighted capacity.

SO get back to me if you are correct on this and I’ll freeze my order on a CT3. That’s the steal of the millennia
 

Firetruck41

Well-known member
First Name
Ben
Joined
Jan 1, 2021
Messages
133
Reaction score
206
Location
SW Washington
Vehicles
2013 Leaf, 2017 Bolt, 2010 Ram 2500 Megacab
Country flag
Does anyone think that the range numbers we were given are WITH a payload or trailer weight? They stated the range of the Semitruck like that. Why would we be mislead with the Cybertruck to believe that it won't be able to tow at least the paylod capacity of 3500 lbs for 500 miles on one charge with the tri-motor?
Definitely not. Every trailer is of different weight, size, and aero. Towing one trailer you could see a 30% decrease in range, where another trailer could see a 70% decrease in range, way to many variables to make it "towing" range.

Also, at max tow with almost any trailer, I would guess you are as losing at least 50% range. If the numbers were "towing range". The battery would have to be 100% larger than all current predictions. I don't see that as realistic.
 

Advertisement





 


Advertisement
Top