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I own a M3 LR(310miles) almost 5 years. Now it has range about 260miles(64kwh). I take 260 miles trip(same destination) about 4 to 5 times every year on east coast. For first 4 years, I have to go out on an exit and drive 15 minutes to super charge station(30 minutes round trip) Lately, Tesla added 1 new supercharge station in one of rest area that save me 30 minutes. After I reach destination, I have to go to ChargePoint station to make sure I can reach supercharge station on my way home. One time, I also took a 400 miles trip. It takes at least 1.5 hours more in comparison to a ICE car. So, I will not buy any BEV if under 450miles change.
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Sheesh! Pickup trucks are terrible for kid's seat access anyway, way too tall, unless you are a 7-foot-tall NBA star. At least the Cybertruck can lower to the ground if you really want to use a pickup to haul toddlers around. It's far from optimal but, in a pinch, the Cybertruck offers better access because it's lower. A Model Y or a Model X is a better tool for the job than any full-sized pickup.

The things people say around here make me wonder what their motive is. It's like they want the Cybertruck to do everything well. There is no vehicle like that! That's not to say the Cybertruck will not be incredibly versatile.
Reads just like an observation to me.
I’d be more concerned about alternate motives of those vigorously defending anything shy of praise
I own a M3 LR(310miles) almost 5 years. Now it has range about 260miles(64kwh). I take 260 miles trip(same destination) about 4 to 5 times every year on east coast. For first 4 years, I have to go out on an exit and drive 15 minutes to super charge station(30 minutes round trip) Lately, Tesla added 1 new supercharge station in one of rest area that save me 30 minutes. After I reach destination, I have to go to ChargePoint station to make sure I can reach supercharge station on my way home. One time, I also took a 400 miles trip. It takes at least 1.5 hours more in comparison to a ICE car. So, I will not buy any BEV if under 450miles change.
that sounds about right. I have similar car mileage age, and do a 900 mile trip twice a year and have to plan for about three hours of supercharging.

Range of 260 seems low… Mine has 280, it’s a 2018 with 90,000 miles
 

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I was just using the numbers the poster you were referring to was using. Unfortunately if you want actuals, those aren’t as readily available though we do have some inclinations.

Shortly after launch in 2019, Elon said “146k Cybertruck orders so far, with 42% choosing dual, 41% tri & 17% single motor”. Using these figures we see around 60% of orders for trucks with ~300Mi or less range (Dual and Single).

When the tracker breached 1 Million (and before people started adding made up trims like “Quad” the distribution was 48% Dual, 44% Tri, and 8% Single which still puts the majority of buyers (56%) looking for ~300Mi or less. (Note: These are extrapolated from self-reported stats so less accurate than Elon’s original figures above.)

Fact is, the majority of buyers preordered a truck with about 300Mi of range (or less).
Or another way to look at this, the majority ordered the lower price points, which are a larger market of buyers
 

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If you're not stopping every two to three hours, you are an unsafe driver. Straight up.

Own it. I will drive as fast and far as I can, and have with my ICE cars, but a hundred fifty miles between charging stop is more than plenty

Also, charging stops for a Tesla are 20min or less.

And I do own an EV with only 80 miles range. I know the pain of short range. But Tesla has never, ever, been there.

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I own a M3 LR(310miles) almost 5 years. Now it has range about 260miles(64kwh). I take 260 miles trip(same destination) about 4 to 5 times every year on east coast. For first 4 years, I have to go out on an exit and drive 15 minutes to super charge station(30 minutes round trip) Lately, Tesla added 1 new supercharge station in one of rest area that save me 30 minutes. After I reach destination, I have to go to ChargePoint station to make sure I can reach supercharge station on my way home. One time, I also took a 400 miles trip. It takes at least 1.5 hours more in comparison to a ICE car. So, I will not buy any BEV if under 450miles change.
This is bull effing.

You're complaining that you lost an hour on a specific drive...

...but ignoring the hours you spend sitting and standing in a gas station all year round?

Talk about spiting your nose for your face.
 


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I own a M3 LR(310miles) almost 5 years. Now it has range about 260miles(64kwh). I take 260 miles trip(same destination) about 4 to 5 times every year on east coast. For first 4 years, I have to go out on an exit and drive 15 minutes to super charge station(30 minutes round trip) Lately, Tesla added 1 new supercharge station in one of rest area that save me 30 minutes.
that sounds about right. I have similar car mileage age, and do a 900 mile trip twice a year and have to plan for about three hours of supercharging.

Range of 260 seems low… Mine has 280, it’s a 2018 with 90,000 miles
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Re: M3 LR range degradation

FYI, my son has a 2018 which is about 270 depending on time of year. HOWEVER, tools like TeslaFI give you a green line average of similar cars. You can get a better statistical idea based on that and how 'your' car is doing relative to them. In his example below 59 other similar cars (miles, year, etc).

Tesla Cybertruck Videos: best look yet @ interior, folded-up backseat, tonneau cover, display screen UI, range meter JyIuSj1
 
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depends on the distance. when comparing to the existing ev trucks, i would rather have less range and more reliable infrastructure than more range and electrify america lol
 

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How do you know it's a cult? You're never at the meetings
I had fun at the last Tesla cult meeting. It was a blast sacrificing that Dodge Ram 1500 after we emptied our magazines into the doors. I'll tell you, when it comes to taking a bullet, that Ram is no Cybertruck. Was that your idea to fill it with extra gasoline to make the fire bigger? That was brilliant!

Whose turn is it next month to supply us with another sacrificial offering? I might have a lead on a Toyota Tocoma that's going for a song because it needs a new tranny. Only has 80K miles on it and it still looks new other than the usual door dings and a bit of rust where the paint has chipped off.

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I own a M3 LR(310miles) almost 5 years. Now it has range about 260miles(64kwh). I take 260 miles trip(same destination) about 4 to 5 times every year on east coast. For first 4 years, I have to go out on an exit and drive 15 minutes to super charge station(30 minutes round trip) Lately, Tesla added 1 new supercharge station in one of rest area that save me 30 minutes. After I reach destination, I have to go to ChargePoint station to make sure I can reach supercharge station on my way home. One time, I also took a 400 miles trip. It takes at least 1.5 hours more in comparison to a ICE car. So, I will not buy any BEV if under 450miles change.
I feel sorry for you. We have a Model 3 almost 6 years old with 71,000 miles on it and it still charges up to 305 miles (out of 310 when new) and is easy to get it's rated EPA range simply by keeping it around 65 mph. You might want to check for brake drag and good alignment. It's pretty hard to get good range if your tires are fighting forward progress. Of course we keep the Aero wheels on for maximum battery longevity (less cycling of the battery).
 


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They are required by law to take breaks.

Yes, it's cold, because it's straight up truth.

Own it.

-Crissa
What is the 2-3 hours of driving time before a break law you speak of?

Drivers must take a 30-minute break when they have driven for a period of 8 cumulative hours without at least a 30-minute interruption. The break may be satisfied by any non-driving period of 30 consecutive minutes (i.e., on-duty not driving, off-duty, sleeper berth, or any combination of these taken consecutively).

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulatio...a 30,combination of these taken consecutively).
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