Exactly.Yeah, the legacy auto companies are quite good at press releases and meeting deadlines.
They just can’t… actually produce them in volume. GM has made fewer than 1,000 Hummers since they started production.
But… you’re right, they are fast and furious with those press releases.
What is the point of listing an MSRP if people order your vehicle and the price goes up before they can take delivery? This is the situation a huge number of F-150 and Hummer buyers are facing right now.
WAS insane. I guarantee canceled orders are at least 20% to 25% from a couple years ago. I personally canceled one of two late last year. Not waiting 2 more years or $90-100 for an E truck. This wait, delay shit and Musks twitter bot post is enough to make me start looking elsewhere. And no they won't let you pick it up. This is Texas your talking about. Oil is King over here.I don't think demand will be a problem for prices under 80,000. The reservations are insane. I'll want to save on delivery time and fly to Austin to pick it up if they will let me.
Why not make the quad motor version somewhat affordable, and have volume with some decent margins?That makes sense but the whole thing made me wonder if a quad or a tri is going to come out first, can Tesla keep them under 80 to make it qualify (or would they want to)? Or production plans are flexible enough at this stage to push out dual motor first? What do you guys think? Over $80K damn the tax credit and state of the economy? Or under $80 to Keep the demand high?
Isn't production for the F150 supposed to be 100,000 by end of this year? I'll take that over some guys trying to assemble a press for expected production this year. Guess will see.Yeah, the legacy auto companies are quite good at press releases and meeting deadlines.
They just can’t… actually produce them in volume. GM has made fewer than 1,000 Hummers since they started production.
But… you’re right, they are fast and furious with those press releases.
What is the point of listing an MSRP if people order your vehicle and the price goes up before they can take delivery? This is the situation a huge number of F-150 and Hummer buyers are facing right now.
They were supposed to produce 40,000 last year. They managed to crank out a little more than a third that.Isn't production for the F150 supposed to be 100,000 by end of this year? I'll take that over some guys trying to assemble a press for expected production this year. Guess will see.
Maybe Elon will make a Twitter poll asking for the price of the Cybertruck
Canceling an order now when the $100 deposit is fully refundable doesn't make any sense. Your spot in line is worth 5 times the deposit. The first two years of production will be major flip opportunities. The demand is going to be crazy once the world sees what these trucks will do. Oil will be around for a long time in specialty and of road equipment. It won't last on our highways. GM, Ford, Stelantis, BMW, Mercedes..... all dieing soon. No vision, no future. Never bet against Elon!WAS insane. I guarantee canceled orders are at least 20% to 25% from a couple years ago. I personally canceled one of two late last year. Not waiting 2 more years or $90-100 for an E truck. This wait, delay shit and Musks twitter bot post is enough to make me start looking elsewhere. And no they won't let you pick it up. This is Texas your talking about. Oil is King over here.
ive seen you mention this several times. I suppose I may have missed something, but this doesn’t track with anything I’ve seen.They were supposed to produce 40,000 last year. They managed to crank out a little more than a third that.
separately, that’s a Tesla success story for sure - but weren’t there Model Y challenges meanwhile?Last year Tesla went from “Some guys trying to assemble a press” to delivering 3,000 Model Ys a week in about a year.
That very well may end up being what they do since Silverado , Rivian and F150 will be on the road. Specs may make it a clear choice for some but combination of specs and price will win many. However with all the price cuts, state of economy and bad publicity, Model X plaid with three motors is priced at $120K. Top of the line CT, at least in some respects will be more capable.Why not make the quad motor version somewhat affordable, and have volume with some decent margins?
Most everyone had the same issues in 2020, 2021, and 2022. COVID, COVID shutdowns in China, supply chain chaos, and the shortage of chips commonly used in the auto industry.separately, that’s a Tesla success story for sure - but weren’t there Model Y challenges meanwhile?
admittedly, I’m not very agile with Tesla production figures. I just seem to remember you mentioning various reasons model Y ramp and production were behind - maybe it was only a particular factory