What does "Full Self-Driving Capability" mean in the order?

[Outdoors]

I thought foundation series comes with FSD (i.e. already paid for as part of $20K)? is that right or i have to pay additional to get FSD?

No you don't, you get it with the truck.

@Crissa Wow that was F ing hard. Software stacks and BS.

Why are we talking about the past. The OP want's to know about now. Stop spouting knowledge not needed or make a new thread.

Sponsored

 

[Outdoors]

This is old and just not relevant. And not confusing.

If you buy a car from an owner, and that car has purchased FSD, it has FSD when you register it with Tesla. If they have rented FSD, it will not have FSD when you register it with Tesla.

It's irrelevant to you if a car had FSD in the past when you're buying it from Tesla. They list what features are enabled in the used vehicle, and third-party sources could be incorrect on the status of those features.

-Crissa

And yes, they used to sell that cars were 'capable, with future purchase' but they don't advertise that now - since all Teslas contain the hardware.

I figured it out. You love words. Capability. So great. Yet why so many questions for those that aren't as intelligent as you.

How about FSDr, and FSD? Again as I have said it everywhere. So many questions, because Tesla makes it more complicated. Should be carried on the car in information tab, which you don't have. It shows all the cars features. FSD would indicate is owned with car, and FSDr would show it for the people that didn't believe at the beginning, and wanted to slow walk, and like renting via a monthly payment.

 

[Crissa]

Why are we talking about the past. The OP want's to know about now. Stop spouting knowledge not needed or make a new thread.

You brought it up: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...apability-mean-in-the-order.18624/post-337038

Today, when you order a Tesla, there is the option to purchase FSD. It's called 'Full Self-Driving Capability'

...which is the same as on the feature list for the Foundation Series.

Very simple. Which means it's easy to mistake.

-Crissa

 

[Outdoors]

You brought it up: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...apability-mean-in-the-order.18624/post-337038

Today, when you order a Tesla, there is the option to purchase FSD. It's called 'Full Self-Driving Capability'

...which is the same as on the feature list for the Foundation Series.

Very simple. Which means it's easy to mistake.

-Crissa

What is your point your honor? That has been asked and answered. We all know that.

Duh...... The OP just asked a simple question. You still can't answer as simply as I do. Come on in 17k in messages. Not a simple answer? That is like 40 messages a day since 2020. Kidding of course.

Seriously just answer the OP's question or is that not possible?

 

[Crissa]

Seriously just answer the OP's question or is that not possible?

In what way did I not answer it with my prior posts?

Here, I'll do it a third time.

I thought foundation series comes with FSD (i.e. already paid for as part of $20K)? is that right or i have to pay additional to get FSD?

Foundation Series comes with FSD Capability. They will get FSD when it becomes available.

FSD Beta or "Supervised" isn't currently available to the Cybertruck as the camera positions are different, as well as the footprint and turning radius of the truck, from the other four models of Tesla vehicles.

Tesla teaches their FSD software by using good driving examples uploaded from the fleet, among other methods. So it'll take time, and alot of miles, to teach the trucks how to drive themselves.

-Crissa

 

[Outdoors]

In what way did I not answer it with my prior posts?

Here, I'll do it a third time.


Foundation Series comes with FSD Capability. They will get FSD when it becomes available.

FSD Beta or "Supervised" isn't currently available to the Cybertruck as the camera positions are different, as well as the footprint and turning radius of the truck, from the other four models of Tesla vehicles.

Tesla teaches their FSD software by using good driving examples uploaded from the fleet, among other methods. So it'll take time, and alot of miles, to teach the trucks how to drive themselves.

-Crissa

Couldn't do it. I knew it. Simple. Couldn't close the sale. Customer walked away shaking head. Confused. Buying an ICE.

Customer. Me asked, and OP. Really simply not a dissertation. Do I get it or don't I get FSD when I buy a foundation cybertruck?

Got to fix the internet tonight someone might be wrong honey says @Crissa. I will be to bed shortly.

 

[Crissa]

Couldn't do it. I knew it. Simple. Couldn't close the sale. Customer walked away shaking head. Confused. Buying an ICE.

Customer. Me asked, and OP. Really simply not a dissertation. Do I get it or don't I get FSD when I buy a foundation cybertruck?

Got to fix the internet tonight someone might be wrong honey says @Crissa. I will be to bed shortly.

I do not understand what you're upset with.

I'm verbose. This is how I am. I've answered the question three times, once with screenshots, another focused.

The Foundation Series comes with the purchase license of the Full Self Driving Capability suite of software. It's not currently available to download in delivered trucks, but will be patched over the air when it is.

That's four times now.

-Crissa

 

[Stuck4ger]

You brought it up: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...apability-mean-in-the-order.18624/post-337038

Today, when you order a Tesla, there is the option to purchase FSD. It's called 'Full Self-Driving Capability'

...which is the same as on the feature list for the Foundation Series.

Very simple. Which means it's easy to mistake.

-Crissa

Although I wasn’t crazy about this back and forth tit-for-tat-gotta-get-the-last-word exchange, these screen shots did really help to put my mind at ease. Thank you, Crissa.
[edited since it’s poor form to give someone a compliment and misspell their name?]

 

[nicnguye]

I thought foundation series comes with FSD (i.e. already paid for as part of $20K)? is that right or i have to pay additional to get FSD?

I called Tesla and talked to two different customer reps weeks apart. They both adamantly confirmed the FS CT only comes with the FSD hardware. You'll still need to pay for the software when the time comes to have FSD. Bummer.

 

[Woodrick]

Maybe read a bit. I said all cars and trucks made today. Why the F does anyone care about a software stack? Let alone someone that didn't give a shit about a stack nor asked a question about a software stack.

It's the same software that runs in the vehicles today that runs in the vehicles from 6 or 16 years ago. Remember, this is Tesla.

Oh and BTW, Tesla does NOT remove FSD from cars traded in. That happened for a month or two about 4 years ago.

Oh, people read? Look at the order agreement.

 

[CyberTW]

I called Tesla and talked to two different customer reps weeks apart. They both adamantly confirmed the FS CT only comes with the FSD hardware. You'll still need to pay for the software when the time comes to have FSD. Bummer.

I feel like everyone is hearing different from this. Many big X cybertruck owners say that FSD comes with it (as in you can use it when they release it). Not paying monthly. I feel like this has been very unclear

Crissa feels pretty confident though and the screen shots also lead me to believe it is on there ready to use when they ship it

 

[mongo]

I called Tesla and talked to two different customer reps weeks apart. They both adamantly confirmed the FS CT only comes with the FSD hardware. You'll still need to pay for the software when the time comes to have FSD. Bummer.

And this is the problem
All Teslas come with the hardware capability for FSD
Not all Teslas have the software for FSD enabled
In the case of Cybertruck, the FSD SW does not yet exist in the wild.

Result:
A Cybertruck delivered today has FSD HW (one could say HW capability)
A Cybertruck delivered today does not have FSD SW (one could say FSD functionality)
Net result: a Cybertruck delivered today does not have FSD in any usable form.

However, what we all likely care about is what happens when Tesla releases FSD SW for the Cybertruck.

That depends on if one has purchased the FSD option package. Per the order page, all Foundation Series come with FSD capability. Given all CT come with the HW, this only makes sense to list if it is indeed referring to the SW. It is also the only senario which fits with the Foundation pricing and lack of option to add FSD when configuring.

So, does Cybertruck cone with FSD (supervised)?
If you mean, "Can it drive me home from the delivery center?", the answer is no.
If you mean, "Once there is a publicity released version of FSD(s), will my Cybertruck get it?", the answer is yes.

Agents talking about paying more (for Foundation orders) are wrong.

 

[shahfarh]

You all confused me -- i am going with "It is paid for" and i will confirm tomorrow when i pickup my truck.

 

[shahfarh]

You brought it up: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...apability-mean-in-the-order.18624/post-337038

Today, when you order a Tesla, there is the option to purchase FSD. It's called 'Full Self-Driving Capability'

...which is the same as on the feature list for the Foundation Series.

Very simple. Which means it's easy to mistake.

-Crissa

Thank you.. this is best explanation (and hoping this is valid)

 

[Stuck4ger]

You all confused me -- i am going with "It is paid for" and i will confirm tomorrow when i pickup my truck.

Here is a screen shot from a new Model X with a current FSD subscription. It says it has FSD Capability that will expire at the end of the month. All foundation CTs will come with FSD hardware (duh) and full self driving capability once the software is enabled (duh to some but not duh to many).

Sponsored