What's a deal-breaker for you?

[Ogre]

If the Fed keeps increasing interest rates on a quarterly basis, we’ll all be eyeballing the single motor again.

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[HaulingAss]

If the Fed keeps increasing interest rates on a quarterly basis, we’ll all be eyeballing the single motor again.

I'm buying a Quad-motor with my TSLA investment gains. Even if the price is $80K once all is said and done with the options I want, it will amount to less than $4K of original TSLA investment since I sold a bunch when it was up around $260 (split adjusted) and I only paid a bit over $12 for each of those shares in 2019.

But it does seem like the Fed is intent on creating a recession. My view is the economy is pretty darn resilient right now and the Fed's actions will slow, but not cripple, the economy. This means raw materials prices might continue to drop which could help keep the Cybertruck more affordable, at least for those who have saved most, if not all, of the purchase price in advance.

 

[MEDICALJMP]

Who drives two hundred miles without stopping? That's like, three hours. That's really pushing the bladder. And while there's a few lakes a hundred miles from somewhere, there's not alot of them. Get enough of these trucks rolling around and there'll be Level 2 charging for the trucks waiting for their boats to come back.

And how do you 'more capacity'? You have to stop and refuel, or you buy the one with extra-big tanks in the beginning. The vast majority don't have those tanks.

So why does this keep coming up? Honestly.

-Crissa

I can and do, often.

Just because you or others cannot or do not does not discount that fact. This has been discussed on these threads countless times and is an irrelevant argument. Different people, different needs.

 

[Crissa]

When I was working, my daily commute was a bit over 100 miles and I did this for 25 years. Luckily no accidents or tickets. This put me at an easy 2000 miles/month plus weekend driving. This was in crazy commute traffic over the Altamont Pass before they widened I-580 and I-205 to 6 lanes. For many Californian drivers, this was a daily commute distance with some of my neighbors driving even further.

Yeah, spouse had a coworker at Stanford who lived in Salinas. Two hours without traffic!

I've driven 680/580/205 in rush a few times and cannot imagine what would be worth living in the worse air quality of the Central Valley and giving up ten hours a week for...

The Delta is pretty and the gardening is sublime but...

-Crisda

 

[CyberGus]

Me: I'm buying a Cybertruck.
SO: You're not parking that hideous monstrosity in my driveway.
Me: Didn't you just buy in to another racehorse?
SO: ears emit smoke
SO: Your terms are acceptable.

 

[Ogre]

Yeah, spouse had a coworker at Stanford who lived in Salinas. Two hours without traffic!

I've driven 680/580/205 in rush a few times and cannot imagine what would be worth living in the worse air quality of the Central Valley and giving up ten hours a week for...

The Delta is pretty and the gardening is sublime but...

-Crisda

I lived in the Central Valley for a long time. Did not commute though, the idea of robbing myself of 3+ hours a day seemed insane. Likewise the idea of living in the Bay Area and its chaos.

 

[Crissa]

I lived in the Central Valley for a long time. Did not commute though, the idea of robbing myself of 3+ hours a day seemed insane. Likewise the idea of living in the Bay Area and its chaos.

Well, there's a reason I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains. I need my trees.

-Crissa

 

[Deleted member 12457]

Yeah, spouse had a coworker at Stanford who lived in Salinas. Two hours without traffic!

I've driven 680/580/205 in rush a few times and cannot imagine what would be worth living in the worse air quality of the Central Valley and giving up ten hours a week for...

The Delta is pretty and the gardening is sublime but...

-Crisda

There's a thing called housing affordability, at least when I first moved there. I got a job in the Bay Area back in 1980 when housing was a little affordable but not really. Housing is not affordable anywhere now (on the West Coast) but owning two different houses in the early 80's for $50K and $110K let me keep the money I was making. I couldn't afford housing in the city I worked in, which was less expensive than where you live. As for air quality in the Central Valley, it was and is a lot better than the stench I had to endure growing up in Southern California. I worked at a government installation for 33 years, the last few years telecommuting from Anacortes, WA, a small, quaint town next in the Puget Sound. My commuting up here meant walking from my bedroom, down to the kitchen to make coffee/tea, then back upstairs to my office. I've been to Santa Cruz, had a college friend in Aptos, and love the California Coast but there are way too many people in the greater Bay Area. I like where I am right now.

 

[Crissa]

There's a thing called housing affordability, at least when I first moved there. I got a job in the Bay Area back in 1980 when housing was a little affordable but not really. Housing is not affordable anywhere now (on the West Coast) but owning two different houses in the early 80's for $50K and $110K let me keep the money I was making. I couldn't afford housing in the city I worked in, which was less expensive than where you live. As for air quality in the Central Valley, it was and is a lot better than the stench I had to endure growing up in Southern California. I worked at a government installation for 33 years, the last few years telecommuting from Anacortes, WA, a small, quaint town next in the Puget Sound. My commuting up here meant walking from my bedroom, down to the kitchen to make coffee/tea, then back upstairs to my office. I've been to Santa Cruz, had a college friend in Aptos, and love the California Coast but there are way too many people in the greater Bay Area. I like where I am right now.

Yeah, that is better than a commute. I love the Olympic peninsula! My dad worked for the Quinault when I was in High School and we lived in Ocean Shores.

And yes I suppose the air better now than LA in the 80s... But still not great! And definitely alot better where you're at now.

As for 'affordability'... if you're spending thousands on the commute vehicle, plus hundreds of hours, are you really saving money with a two-hour commute?

-Crissa

 

[ÆCIII]

Since my previous response to this thread was far beyond the context of what the OP was asking for - in fairness I thought I'd also provide a response also more related to the Cybertruck.

So my deal-breaker for accepting a Cybertruck (what would make me reject a delivery), would be acutely poor workmanship or fit and finish problems.

There were a small percentage of such fit and finish problems with the initial Model 3 ramp up, but of course it was a new model never before produced at scale. The Cybertruck is also a new model both in style and assembly methods, so unsurprisingly there are fit and finish problems appearing in the prototypes.

Tesla has already solved some earlier prototype problems with the tail gate and vault redesign.

I have carefully looked at all provided footage and imagery I could find to stay keenly aware of Cybertruck design details and areas prone to possible workmanship defects.

This post focuses particularly on noticeable ripples in the stainless steel of the vault exterior side surface over the rear wheels and toward the tail gate, as seen in recent prototypes. If such ripples were strongly noticeable in one being delivered, then I might reject delivery unless I had other methods to correct or hide such workmanship flaws, and if I felt the Cybertruck was worth dealing with such flaws.

I (thought I had) already pointed out this issue briefly in a previous post:

[and I was going to insert link here, but so far I can't find the post]​

Of course with many workmanship and fitment areas, problems vary so it's also a matter of degree or actually how bad or noticeable a misalignment or appearance flaw is in actual production samples. If such problems are difficult to notice and are very slight, then material or workmanship defects of that nature may be generally acceptable to a majority of people, depending on the product of course.

But with ripples in sheet stainless steel there are also temperature dynamics to consider, because if there are already ripples and the skin is exposed to hot sun or heat, then those ripples will likely expand and protrude even worse. While stainless steel expands less than some other metals it still expands some, and with ripples only a very small amount of expansion is needed to make ripples more pronounced and noticeable.

Ultimately I will have to see what I take delivery of in person and put my hands on it, before deciding. There have been images of the Cybertruck where the ripples are not visible or mostly non-existent, and other images where the ripples are acutely obvious.

I feel this issue is important enough to start it's own thread where I'll lay out the detailed examples of this issue that I've seen, what I think is causing them, and what I think could correct them. I'll link this thread below:

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/cybertruck-vault-sides.8392/

Keep in mind this post is not intended to smear Tesla or the Cybertruck but instead to help ensure it's success at launch and ramp-up. I feel this problem should be corrected before it would reproduced at scale. The Cybertruck is polarizing enough as it is, but the style itself will 'grow on people', if it is refined and not cheap looking. However ripples and workmanship defects will reduce sales and inflame the narratives to stigmatize Tesla. But it is also possible that Tesla already has corrective methods in place for the production samples and just not for the prototypes.

- ÆCIII

 

[Rozonoe]

Apologies if a similar thread already exists, but I was curious if anything might cause people to opt out of the Cybertruck as we get closer to launch.

After final specs, pricing and performance figures are released is there something specific that would lead you to cancel your reservation?

How about once test drives are available?

For me (and many others) a price change beyond 10-15% of the initial figures would be a deal-breaker. If the CT felt unwieldy and un-parkable in the city that would also cause some hesitation.

Otherwise, I'm all in ...barring some unforeseen pitfall.

Exactly, the final price.

 

[cal]

If it doesn’t have a Pro-power option.

Gotta be able to use that big battery for more than just transport. The pics of the bed look surprisingly sparse. Didn’t see a 220 or 110v outlet anywhere. It’s gotta at least match the Lightning’a frunk and bed power outlets. Also the compressor has to be powerful enough to drive real power tools. And there better be 110v outlets in the cabin.

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