WTH is Tesla doing....

[Green-Mario]

I think you cancel as a protest of this injustice.

My opinion has nothing to do with the fact that those numbers are a little ahead of mine. It's about justice.

For you. I will

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[CyberTW]

Ok, I'm not a social media influenza, or a parent/child/relative/neighbor of anyone anyway involved with Tesla. I don't own a Tesla. I'm not defending Tesla. But please allow me to make a couple points.

Regarding your RN;

• Do you have any documentation from Tesla that says they will or even will try to go "in order"?
• By Tesla's standards, is "in order" based on RN number sequentially? The day of the RN? The week of the RN? The month of the RN? The year of the RN?
• Do you have anything from Tesla that says there are no other factors, other than the RN, that affect the order in which these offers are made?
• Is there any document from Tesla that says those with an RN are entitled to get their reservation fulfilled ahead of the general public?
• Is there any evidence that those with RN numbers greater than yours, indicating they made their reservation after you, that they are telling the truth?
• Have you EVER seen some jack-wagon on the internet post a lie, just to get under the skin of someone they don't know, have never met, never will meet?
• Was anyone filling out an internet form regarding their RN and/order placement sworn to tell the truth under penalty of perjury? Or even a really bad yelp review?

There are people on here who have made multiple reservations who are stating their later reservation was picked ahead of their first reservation. If true, it indicates there is some sort of randomness to the selection, or at least Tesla only generally care about RN numbers.

Are you mad a Tesla because they didn't do it the way they said they would, or they didn't do it the way you thought they should/would?

Again, not defending anyone, just trying to be realistic here.

Exactly

 

[Green-Mario]

I get you are frustrated. But do you know their process? Do you know for a fact they are just throwing darts against the wall for numbers? Read through your posts. You make it sound like you are a VIP, and expect VIP treatment.
Then you shot back at @cvalue13 who is one is the top and trusted posters here.
you just sound super pissed over something you have no control over nor have any inside info on how the process works. I mean, vent away, fine with me. It comes across different than you might be able to step back and see.

Lets be clear. I am pointing out a system I feel is flawed. Venting, frustrated, mad, whatever you want to call it. And you call me an entitled toddler. Clearly, I am not the only one dealing with something, I know what my problem is. Yours however, who knows.

Besides your obvious personal reaction to my posts about feeling slighted, I am genuinely looking to piece together either others in the same boat, or more info into WTH Tesla is doing...(see thread title). Others have either provided a "me too" moment for me, or provided extra insight into past experience around how Tesla does this thing. You yourself could use a little maturing if you feel insulting others on a forum is appropriate. Think on that a little, or better yet, let that sink in.

Is @cvalue13 a VIP that you can stand seeing someone "shoot back at"? Perhaps we are both learning something about eachother today.

Edit - My user is more than 2 years older than @cvalue13. I think we can all agree, I win that little exchange. I am sorry if my replying to cvalue hurt your feelings. People are allowed to disagree and point out silly points made by your heroes.

 

[CyberTW]

Lets be clear. I am pointing out a system I feel is flawed. Venting, frustrated, mad, whatever you want to call it. And you call me an entitled toddler. Clearly, I am not the only one dealing with something, I know what my problem is. Yours however, who knows.

Besides your obvious personal reaction to my posts about feeling slighted, I am genuinely looking to piece together either others in the same boat, or more info into WTH Tesla is doing...(see thread title). Others have either provided a "me too" moment for me, or provided extra insight into past experience around how Tesla does this thing. You yourself could use a little maturing if you feel insulting others on a forum is appropriate. Think on that a little, or better yet, let that sink in.

Is @cvalue13 a VIP that you can stand seeing someone "shoot back at"? Perhaps we are both learning something about eachother today.

I rest my case. I mean, I am not losing sleep over how tesla goes about reservation numbers. You are coming in hot with “maturity”, which I would bet most of the board are not looking at me or @cvalue13 as ones in need of maturity.
none of my posts show anything you accused me of, so ??.
All good man, slander me if you want, doesn’t affect me. It’s out of my control. As is Tesla’s way of fulfilling RNs

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

This is a reach, and you know it.

Are you claiming that all those in CO that have gotten invitations are influencers and Tesla employee's parents? You and I both know thats not true, and is not the reason all these people are getting invitations in my state and area while I am not.

I do not think that he is claiming anything per se. The sad fact is that @cvalue13 is as much correct as anyone and he is definitely right about RN11302XXX (not mine). It is hard to believe that his number was just picked out of a hat by random, but he has been very helpful to the members of this forum and what is one RN in 2 million. It is unfortunate that you have gotten so angry over what has happened in the last few weeks when most of us didn't think that real-people reservation holders would get an invite to configure in 2023, and yet here we are with about 300 people just on this forum (I didn't know there were even 300 people on this forum) that have gotten an invitation, and we still have more than a week to go in 2023.

 

[Gigahorse]

Getting furious over here. Now there are multiple example of people with reservations behind mine that have gotten invitations to order. I am in CO and have 2 reservations. Stock holder, owned multiple teslas.... WTAF

Tesla has made this among the most disappointing things in my life. After 4 years of excitement and waiting patiently they f^%king skip me??? WTF! It wasn't free either. I placed $ down 4 years ago for my spot in line, and they are straight up passing over me. I am furious.

RN1127620
RN1127753

Seriously... WTF Tesla.

Anyone else just baffled about what is happening here?? There are not confirm CO orders that are 10s of thousands behind me in the queue. My heart is broken.

Two friends in CA with 112 reservation #s lower than yours who have not gotten invites and are not real happy.

Meanwhile there are a few 113s that have gotten invites which are obviously a WAYS down the list.

If you are wanting a Foundation Series I guess the good news is it looks like Tesla is going to be offering a LOT of those, maybe all the 2024 deliveries and into 2025 may all end up being FS as they try to get some extra revenue. Looks like they are going through a LOT of people on the list so you may get an invite for a FS yet.

But yea the "reservation" list should really be called a "order lottery signup"

 

[Cybertruck Tampa]

Getting furious over here. Now there are multiple example of people with reservations behind mine that have gotten invitations to order. I am in CO and have 2 reservations. Stock holder, owned multiple teslas.... WTAF

Tesla has made this among the most disappointing things in my life. After 4 years of excitement and waiting patiently they f^%king skip me??? WTF! It wasn't free either. I placed $ down 4 years ago for my spot in line, and they are straight up passing over me. I am furious.

RN1127620
RN1127753

Seriously... WTF Tesla.


Anyone else just baffled about what is happening here?? There are not confirm CO orders that are 10s of thousands behind me in the queue. My heart is broken.

I don’t believe they ever said orders were going to be delivered in the order in which they were received. Chill out, dude, everyone wants their car, I presume you’re older that 30 so just be an adult about it. (If this is a legit serious post.) Lol.

 

[batlag]

Getting furious over here. Now there are multiple example of people with reservations behind mine that have gotten invitations to order. I am in CO and have 2 reservations. Stock holder, owned multiple teslas.... WTAF

Tesla has made this among the most disappointing things in my life. After 4 years of excitement and waiting patiently they f^%king skip me??? WTF! It wasn't free either. I placed $ down 4 years ago for my spot in line, and they are straight up passing over me. I am furious.

RN1127620
RN1127753

Seriously... WTF Tesla.

Anyone else just baffled about what is happening here?? There are not confirm CO orders that are 10s of thousands behind me in the queue. My heart is broken.

I’m 112744, and haven’t heard a peep! And I’m SoCal based! Very disappointed.

 

[Balthezor]

While I understand the frustration. I think it's a little over the top. The people 10's of thousands of spots behind you are not cutting in line 10's of thousands of spots.

Reservation numbers are not Cybertruck reservation numbers. They are Tesla reservation numbers. There are people with reservation orders millions of spots behind us, but that doesn't mean there are millions of Cybertruck reservations, most of those are for the 3/Y. Even the estimated ≈2,000,000 reservations placed isn't 2,000,000 reservations currently out there. I'm positive countless people, probably into the 100's of thousands, canceled their orders before the delivery event because they either went with another option in the competition, or they changed their mind, or they couldn't save up the money that they were planning on. And of course more people canceled after they seen the $60,000 starting price.

Even once we factor those people out and think about only committed buyers, we still can't even include the future RWD buyers which will probably make up the majority of future Cybertruck sales.

The remaining buyers left, when you factor out reservation numbers of other models, people that canceled, and people that are buying the RWD, will be a much much much smaller number. Those 10's of thousands of people between you and the people getting the option to order, could be hundreds or even just dozens. It's impossible to know about the reservation numbers between you and them, it could just be all model 3 reservations that were fulfilled years ago.

I don't think Tesla really cares much about how influential people are or how much stock they own. If they want to give an earlier order to someone specific, like Sandy Munro, good for them. I will actually be really happy to have that content on youtube. But it doesn't seem like any youtubers have been given any preferential treatment for actual deliveries (though I hope Sandy does).

You think it's a little over the top? LOL.

OP, did you cancel your order yet?

 

[CyberTW]

Lets be clear. I am pointing out a system I feel is flawed. Venting, frustrated, mad, whatever you want to call it. And you call me an entitled toddler. Clearly, I am not the only one dealing with something, I know what my problem is. Yours however, who knows.

Besides your obvious personal reaction to my posts about feeling slighted, I am genuinely looking to piece together either others in the same boat, or more info into WTH Tesla is doing...(see thread title). Others have either provided a "me too" moment for me, or provided extra insight into past experience around how Tesla does this thing. You yourself could use a little maturing if you feel insulting others on a forum is appropriate. Think on that a little, or better yet, let that sink in.

Is @cvalue13 a VIP that you can stand seeing someone "shoot back at"? Perhaps we are both learning something about eachother today.

Edit - My user is more than 2 years older than @cvalue13. I think we can all agree, I win that little exchange. I am sorry if my replying to cvalue hurt your feelings. People are allowed to disagree and point out silly points made by your heroes.

“I may just break ties from Tesla. Been a die hard fan for over a Decade now. My office is littered with Tesla merch and collectibles. I feel like a complete and total fool.

The magic is broken now that I have been passed over for something I paid $100 each for 4 years ago. Tesla F^&ked up. It doesn't mean anything to them, and they obviously don't care. That is a big part of the problem though. How can a company think its a good idea to do that to their die hard customers? Their shareholders? Their ambassadors? Insane.

Its not hard to send an invite to those with orders in order they were made... There are now confirmed orders all around me where I live that have confirmed placed orders that are behind me in the queue. Again, I can't even begin to explain how furious I am. I feel completely betrayed by a company and their stupid decisions. They took my money for my spot in line. The bare minimum is that they honor that. Passing me over is not acceptable”

I mean honestly, you don’t think this sounds even a teenie tiny bit entitled/tantrumy? Objectively? You’re right, I am probably the immature one. I can handle that.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

So its unreasonable to be frustrated or upset about this?

Seriously, what is wrong with my frustration here?

I see nothing wrong with your frustration and you are right that there are many, many others in the same boat. SAME boat (own several Teslas, have investments in Tesla, have lots of Tesla stuff in the house, are a walking Tesla billboard, etc.). But that frustration isn't going to change anything. Not yours, not mine, not anyone's. Might as well wait it out, check the account every hour 'just in case', and try to make it through this...

 

[Balthezor]

“I may just break ties from Tesla. Been a die hard fan for over a Decade now. My office is littered with Tesla merch and collectibles. I feel like a complete and total fool.

The magic is broken now that I have been passed over for something I paid $100 each for 4 years ago. Tesla F^&ked up. It doesn't mean anything to them, and they obviously don't care. That is a big part of the problem though. How can a company think its a good idea to do that to their die hard customers? Their shareholders? Their ambassadors? Insane.

Its not hard to send an invite to those with orders in order they were made... There are now confirmed orders all around me where I live that have confirmed placed orders that are behind me in the queue. Again, I can't even begin to explain how furious I am. I feel completely betrayed by a company and their stupid decisions. They took my money for my spot in line. The bare minimum is that they honor that. Passing me over is not acceptable”

I mean honestly, you don’t think this sounds even a teenie tiny bit entitled/tantrumy? Objectively? You’re right, I am probably the immature one. I can handle that.

You know what's worse than a toddler tantrum. An adult tantrum.

 

[AlDente]

If you didn't expect that $100 was good for anything... why on Earth would you pay it? $100 isn't much, but it is not chump change. This was not an "email me when available" button like Apple does for their products that are further away than 10 days from delivery.

Where did it say that the $100 deposit was just for the slight off chance that you might be selected from the pool to maybe have the privilege to be invited to order a CT. But only if you are lucky and smile about it.

The $100 deposit was for a reservation. It was a $ commitment for a place in line. Why is it that folks feel the need to defend terrible practices like this with defenses like this? That is wonderful that you are deciding to wait, and it may be a great decision. However, if you put in an order early and paid your deposit and waited, your Res# should not be passed up. You should be offered the FS, and you should then elect to wait.

You only jumped to give Tesla $100 early for a reason. That reason is not what you are now proclaiming. You, along with everyone else throwing $ down on announcement day did so expecting to get in line. Otherise, Tesla should not have taken $

No to most of what you said and you clearly have no idea what I was thinking in 2019. I saw the almost silly $100 "Reservation" fee as an attempt to gauge interest in this weird looking vehicle. There were no guarantees (place in line or otherwise) yet you keep claiming there were. Have you read the intentionally vague reservation fee document? It wasn't personalized and no detailed explanation of a que was given. It was a number that many assumed was sequential and that was interpretated as a specific "place in line". You assumed all the things you state were fact and take umbrage at any suggestion that your assumptions were faulty. If you're that unhappy with Tesla and this process then go ahead and complain. It's the holidays and I'd hope you have better things to do with your time.

 

[derekmw]

This all reminds me of when the R1T started getting delivered...we had the same type of threads popping up over in those forums about how dare someone else get a delivery before them.

The delivery order was odd, didn't make much sense, and upset more than a few. But the fact is, we don't know what basis they're using, nor will we know. So just hang in there, and your turn will come eventually. Dwelling on it or trying to figure it out will only get you more frustrated.

 

[Green-Mario]

No to most of what you said and you clearly have no idea what I was thinking in 2019. I saw the almost silly $100 "Reservation" fee as an attempt to gauge interest in this weird looking vehicle. There were no guarantees (place in line or otherwise) yet you keep claiming there were. Have you read the intentionally vague reservation fee document? It wasn't personalized and no detailed explanation of a que was given. It was a number that many assumed was sequential and that was interpretated as a specific "place in line". You assumed all the things you state were fact and take umbrage at any suggestion that your assumptions were faulty. If you're that unhappy with Tesla and this process then go ahead and complain. It's the holidays and I'd hope you have better things to do with your time.

If you felt that way, sure. I didn't feel that way. I was given a Cybertruck MotorVehicle Pre-Order Agreement when I put $100 down. To me, a pre-order means the way I described it, a pre-order is different than a reservation to me. You are certainly free to interpret that how you see fit for you.

There are plenty who are disappointed, mad, angry, frustrated here. Looks like plenty of people had their pre-orders skipped over for... who knows why. My disappointment has resulted in me being angry about this.

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