1000 Miles in the Midwest: Road Trip Data

Check out the data HERE.
https://teslascope.com/vehicle/zaimor/gracie/trip/2207
The Good: Even without AP, driving this thing is just FUN! Comfortable ride, 0 range anxiety (had to stick <80 on one stretch because #EasternOklahoma + #ColdWeather + #NightDrive). Got to talk a LOT of Tesla because I had people come up and ask about it in _every single parking lot_ I stopped at. Also, a huge added benefit of the windshield design: no bugs on it! I don't know if that was intentional or just a side effect, but this is what my windshield looked like after a 1000 mile road trip in the midwest, largely at night - If you know, you know.

Also, the range estimates/trip planner were SPOT ON. Like, freakishly accurate. It was never off more than 6%... even on the 205 mile eastern OK stretch, even on the 19 degree early morning stretch, even on the 14mph headwind stretch.

The Bad: No CHAdeMO or CCS support. This is a HUGE miss Tesla - either put V3 Superchargers everywhere, or let us charge where we want. Sure, this will probably come later, but I'm beyond pissed at the project manager that let this launch without it. I could have saved a lot of time (and maybe cost, and driven faster) if I wasn't restricted to only supercharging on the road.

CHAdeMO and CCS will be enabled. I know some here like to speculate that it will never be needed. As NACS will be standard. They must not live in Canada or are warped that the Tesla network covers everything.

For what it is worth the 3 didn't have those items enabled, and CCS wasn't even a Tesla adapter at the time. I knew the project manager for the 3. About 2 months later it was added.

WHY CHAdeMO as it is so old? Tesla sold s s-ton of the adapters and they weren't cheap. They won't F over those who bought it. Willing to bet on it for a charity. Name the amount.

Very nice, looking forward to taking a trip with mine when I get it (still waiting for a VIN).
And that website looks pretty cool. I've never heard of it.
I use TeslaFi and ScanMyTesla to track everything.

And awesome to hear about the bugless windshield, especially at night.

Seems like:
634.61 wh/mile = Energy (Wh) / Distance (miles) = 637,000 Wh / 1,003.77 miles

Zaimor said:

Check out the data HERE.
https://teslascope.com/vehicle/zaimor/gracie/trip/2207
The Good: Even without AP, driving this thing is just FUN! Comfortable ride, 0 range anxiety (had to stick <80 on one stretch because #EasternOklahoma + #ColdWeather + #NightDrive). Got to talk a LOT of Tesla because I had people come up and ask about it in _every single parking lot_ I stopped at. Also, a huge added benefit of the windshield design: no bugs on it! I don't know if that was intentional or just a side effect, but this is what my windshield looked like after a 1000 mile road trip in the midwest, largely at night - If you know, you know.

Also, the range estimates/trip planner were SPOT ON. Like, freakishly accurate. It was never off more than 6%... even on the 205 mile eastern OK stretch, even on the 19 degree early morning stretch, even on the 14mph headwind stretch.

The Bad: No CHAdeMO or CCS support. This is a HUGE miss Tesla - either put V3 Superchargers everywhere, or let us charge where we want. Sure, this will probably come later, but I'm beyond pissed at the project manager that let this launch without it. I could have saved a lot of time (and maybe cost, and driven faster) if I wasn't restricted to only supercharging on the road.

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Can you share a picture of your trip in the CT so we can see how that wh/mile compares to your telescope stats?

Zaimor said:

Also, a huge added benefit of the windshield design: no bugs on it! I don't know if that was

The Bad: No CHAdeMO or CCS support. This is a HUGE miss Tesla - either put V3 Superchargers everywhere, or let us charge where we want. Sure, this will probably come later, but I'm beyond pissed at the project manager that let this launch without it. I could have saved a lot of time (and maybe cost, and driven faster) if I wasn't restricted to only supercharging on the road.

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The bugless windshield would be awesome if it stays that way but I'll reserve my enthusiasm until after driving through a mayfly hatch in the summer. Hopefully it remains nice and clean.

Your stats also put into focus that supercharging is pricey. On a 1000 mile roadtrip I'd expect to spend around $200 on gas for my tacoma (which is not the newer more efficient version) so only saving ~14% on energy cost compared to a gas guzzler is a bummer. I know that non-roadtrip mileage charging at home will be a lot cheaper but I didn't realize fully that supercharging is convenient but far from a bargain.

Outdoors said:

WHY CHAdeMO as it is so old? Tesla sold s s-ton of the adapters and they weren't cheap. They won't F over those who bought it. Willing to bet on it for a charity. Name the amount.

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CHAdeMO because it is fairly public/obvious knowledge that CCS won't work (since the adapter doesn't fit).

I know it's coming, just frustrated that it wasn't there (or publicly called out as a missing thing). Most drivers would assume that since it's present on all of their cars today, it'd be present on the new model, and something like this should have been a big callout - I was extremely lucky to add some extra charge, but if I would have planned for a smaller cushion, I would have been screwed... I had zero idea that would be the case and was lucky I had enough to get to a supercharger. Had it been eastern OK (I drive that route a lot, and my other cars require that extra stop), I would have been stuck for hours at a L2 charger since neither of my expensive Tesla-purchased adapters would have worked.

scottf200 said:

Seems like:
634.61 wh/mile = Energy (Wh) / Distance (miles) = 637,000 Wh / 1,003.77 miles

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Fairly accurate for the Real World(tm) experience, yes. [My admittedly lead foot and] I have been seeing 500-700wh/m. I've seen some 350wh/m numbers, but that's California, where you get to drive 60mph in 65 degree temps. This trip ranged 19F-55F (half stayed around 30, half stayed around 50), 75-85mph highway speeds, constant 5-15mph wind (almost always headwinds, cause Murphy and I are tight like that).

sylvius said:

Your stats also put into focus that supercharging is pricey. On a 1000 mile roadtrip I'd expect to spend around $200 on gas for my tacoma (which is not the newer more efficient version) so only saving ~14% on energy cost compared to a gas guzzler is a bummer. I know that non-roadtrip mileage charging at home will be a lot cheaper but I didn't realize fully that supercharging is convenient but far from a bargain.

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It was pricier than I expected, but then I thought about it more... I think it wasn't so much the cost, but the vehicle MPG. Remember this is a 7,000lb beast with all-terrain tires (vs. a F150/Silverado which average closer to 5,000 and street tires). Tesla did wonders with the aerodynamics and battery life, but as mentioned above, I was looking at an average of 600+wh/m. My point being if this were my S or Y, I'd have paid roughly half as much to supercharge. If I was driving a comparably specced gas truck (likely much less efficient than your Tacoma), I'd have paid roughly twice as much for gas.

unless im mathing wrong that puts 0-100 range at 193 miles?

sylvius said:

The bugless windshield would be awesome if it stays that way but I'll reserve my enthusiasm until after driving through a mayfly hatch in the summer. Hopefully it remains nice and clean.

Your stats also put into focus that supercharging is pricey. On a 1000 mile roadtrip I'd expect to spend around $200 on gas for my tacoma (which is not the newer more efficient version) so only saving ~14% on energy cost compared to a gas guzzler is a bummer. I know that non-roadtrip mileage charging at home will be a lot cheaper but I didn't realize fully that supercharging is convenient but far from a bargain.

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Indeed, , with such high diesel price nowadays, my GL350 would only need $190 to cover 1000 miles with 3 people and full of luggages.

sylvius said:

The bugless windshield would be awesome if it stays that way but I'll reserve my enthusiasm until after driving through a mayfly hatch in the summer. Hopefully it remains nice and clean.

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Yeah, it's winter. That's just one data point. Wait till summer, guessing it won't be the same results.

SolarWizard said:

unless im mathing wrong that puts 0-100 range at 193 miles?

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On average, for this trip, yeah. Which is an improvement over my other Teslas, keeping in mind it's both Real World and Relative. Midwest winter driving with a lead foot is going to be completely different than the constant spring weather and accelerator babying on the west coast that those other numbers come from . My longest stretch was 205 miles, used 93% battery (75-80mph the entire distance).

Are there many bugs there this time of year? If this bug-free ability is true it would be worth the cost of the car alone.

sylvius said:

Your stats also put into focus that supercharging is pricey. On a 1000 mile roadtrip I'd expect to spend around $200 on gas for my tacoma (which is not the newer more efficient version) so only saving ~14% on energy cost compared to a gas guzzler is a bummer. I know that non-roadtrip mileage charging at home will be a lot cheaper but I didn't realize fully that supercharging is convenient but far from a bargain.

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Maybe not a bargain, but it still saves money vs gasoline in most scenarios.

On a 1000 mile round trip in my Tesla Model Y, the first and last charges take place at home for free (I have solar). That's typically about 120 kWh of free charge for 400 miles of driving at an average highway efficiency of 0.300 kWh/mi. That leaves 600 miles and 180 kWh of Supercharged energy at, say, $0.40/kWh costing $72.

With gasoline in my neck of the woods costing $3.00/gal and driving an ICE car getting 30 mpg highway (e.g., BMW 3X), I'd need 33 gallons of gas costing $99.

That's a savings of 27% for the trip in my Model Y, and I don't eat into an oil change interval.

Doing the same calculation for the CT with an efficiency of 0.400 kWh/mi, the cost of the same round trip comes to $79 (half the trip is free on solar). Compared to the 20 mpg Ford F-150 3.3L V6 4x4, that's a savings of 47% driving the CT.

Check my math. If I'm correct, the CT costs substantially less than a gas pickup on short to medium distance round trips. On long road trips, the costs per mile become more or less equal depending on gas and charging prices.

CHAdeMO is dead, there won't be support for it

And besides, you really want to charge the 123 kWh pack at 50 kW?