New Body-in-White pic shows front wheel well, front quarter window + more

ModelAZ said:

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In a 'Head to Head' contest CYBRTRK is gonna BREAK other 'Real Trucks'

Hope they use some type of sealed hard material for the inner fender debris guard. Casting extrusions has lots of dirt/debris collection cavities.

seems cheaper to manufacture sure....cheaper to replace after a minor collision? Only time will tell.

Looks pretty stout though not gonna lie.

Wow, makes me wonder if there's a major crash to the front end.

Frame damage would be a different diagnosis with a CT. Maybe they could take it apart and replace the front clip? Or at worst make it into a badass off-roader.

WHIZZARD OF OZ said:

In a 'Head to Head' contest CYBRTRK is gonna BREAK other 'Real Trucks'

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Driving head on? What does break mean? Only in a 0-60 race

I_Design_Tools said:

seems cheaper to manufacture sure....cheaper to replace after a minor collision? Only time will tell.

Looks pretty stout though not gonna lie.

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My MY is in for repair right now (I did a dumb thing) and the way [all] cars are made now, you don’t unbolt and replace a quarter panel; they are all welded together. As a result, you have to cut at the weld points to remove a section and then jig the new piece in and reweld. It requires significantly more tear down and reassembly. What I thought was a minor dent has turned out to be an $8,000 repair. This is the way things are going to be. I suspect that having a single-piece gigacasting will make things easier than harder, but it is this massive amount of tear down and welding that will determine whether it is even viable to do a repair. The 3mm cold-rolled stainless should help a lot in that regard, for small damage.

It's so refreshing to see new design technic for trucks that is about a hundred year old. The CT will be my last truck in my lifetime. I will pass it down to my family and hope someone will keep it inside the family.

SONNYDUT said:

It's so refreshing to see new design technic for trucks that is about a hundred year old. The CT will be my last truck in my lifetime. I will pass it down to my family and hope someone will keep it inside the family.

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Hey, Tesla probably will make a smaller version of CT, to tap into a larger market worldwide. Would you include that one as a part of your legacy?

I_Design_Tools said:

seems cheaper to manufacture sure....cheaper to replace after a minor collision? Only time will tell.

Looks pretty stout though not gonna lie.

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I think on the earnings call they said it’s cheaper to manufacture and cheaper to repair. Instead of having many parts all spot-welded together, like patchwork, it will be one piece. Perhaps they can swap it, melt the casting back down and recast it?

CYBRSMTH said:

I think on the earnings call they said it’s cheaper to manufacture and cheaper to repair. Instead of having many parts all spot-welded together, like patchwork, it will be one piece. Perhaps they can swap it, melt the casting back down and recast it?

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The idea is that you cut the broken crush cans off the gigacasting, and weld in new ones.

If the internals of the gigacasting are damaged beyond that, you're likely going to have safety cage warping and that's totaled territory for any modern vehicle.

-Crissa

CYBRSMTH said:

I think on the earnings call they said it’s cheaper to manufacture and cheaper to repair. Instead of having many parts all spot-welded together, like patchwork, it will be one piece. Perhaps they can swap it, melt the casting back down and recast it?

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Exactly, there’s not a single weld joining the front aluminum cast clip to the occupant steel frame. Boots with with some anti vibration/sealer sandwiched in between is all that join them. Same for the body panels.
They’ll be blind fastened on or hidden bolted.

So a front collision of significance will require zero welding. Just unbolting everything and the mechanics/electrics, then bolting on new front clip and any other damaged components.
I think it’s quite brilliant.

My XC90 got sideswiped in a hit and run. Damage seemed minimal. $13K later and it was back on the road! That’s the problem with traditional unibody construction. The frame and body work need to be cut, bent back into shape, or wholly replaced and welded. Then painted.
No painting on CT except for the corrosion resistant coatings. Take parts off. Slap the back on.

Crissa said:

The idea is that you cut the broken crush cans off the gigacasting, and weld in new ones.

If the internals of the gigacasting are damaged beyond that, you're likely going to have safety cage warping and that's totaled territory for any modern vehicle.

-Crissa

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Interesting. So are there are crush cans between the stainless steel panels, too? They need to release the crash test videos of the CT. I bet it’s fascinating.

CYBRSMTH said:

Interesting. So are there are crush cans between the stainless steel panels, too? They need to release the crash test videos of the CT. I bet it’s fascinating.

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The panels themselves will also be crush points, but yeah, when you look at a gigacasting, it has crush cans that stick off it.

A gigacasting is meant to just be an assembly of parts cast as one instead of welded together. You can still replace the parts, by replacing part of the gigacasting.

And yeah, I really want to see the crash tests. And the ones for the 4680 Y. And some post-crash teardowns.

-Crissa

Nobody notices the hole in the back of the backseats? Passthrough confirmed?