thought I’d double post this here since it relates back to both the general Frunk discussion and this sub-topic of the front hard points:
specifically, I think it’s more than reasonable to assume that those massive casting rails down below…
Line up with the front recovery/frame access points:
which would size the useable frunk space between casting wells (and not counting frunk molding/trim) about like so:
Possibly. In the pilot line photo the cross car beam is not installed, there's a chance the hard point anchor locations could be offset and not inline with the crush can rails.thought I’d double post this here since it relates back to both the general Frunk discussion and this sub-topic of the front hard points:
If so, given overall size of the CT this could still make for a good sized frunk- possibly every bit as big as the Lightning (even if differently proportioned). Maybe not as “mega” as some might have imagined.
Given the above width estimate, and below length/depth constraint
I’m wondering if they might not fashion a “shelf” in the rearmost portion of Frunk, to use available space back toward the dash (not otherwise eaten by front seat legroom), about like so:
the shelf notion was a total flyer - motivated mostly by trying to dream up where where they’ll squeeze in storage to max their volumeDoubt we'll see a shelf as that area will likely be taken by various ancillary components.
On a separate but related note if the air suspension cylinder is placed between the shock towers, like on S/X, then the depth of the frunk will be limited even further. Hopefully that is not the case and they're putting it elsewhere.
This isn't surprising at allOpen face, open top. No shelving back at all.
This on the other hand requires you to show your workThe frunk iteration I have seen ... It doesn't go deep, it's basically the full width of the front of the Cybertruck.
Sorry, won't be posting any photos I (may) have.This isn't surprising at all
This on the other hand requires you to show your work
Also it's a surprising take given what we're seeing of the front casting - I mean, all that suspension gear is necessarily inboard of the tires, and so encroaching on the "full width of the front of the cybertruck" ...
if only there were some way you could describe the contrary using, for example, photo illustrations...
In lieu of pics, can @cvalue13 or someone create illustrations on a top down and side view of trucks for you to let us know if we're hot or cold? I'd offer to do the illustrations, but I'm just happy if I don't leave boogers on my screen at the end of the day.Sorry, won't be posting any photos I (may) have.
Maybe the frunk will be open on May 16th at the Shareholder Meeting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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also, your illustration of the lines on the BIW Cybertruck from yesterday are short, it's a bit longer/ larger than that.
Well in the picture he's heading back toward the bed. I believe it should go underneath the bed right before the rear axles. Given two ideas, the rear will lower and raise more than the front and the compressor hookup is also in the bed, shorter lines running to suspension and air hookup much more efficient and prob a lot more room back therePossibly. In the pilot line photo the cross car beam is not installed, there's a chance the hard point anchor locations could be offset and not inline with the crush can rails.
Doubt we'll see a shelf as that area will likely be taken by various ancillary components.
On a separate but related note if the air suspension cylinder is placed between the shock towers, like on S/X, then the depth of the frunk will be limited even further. Hopefully that is not the case and they're putting it elsewhere.
Pretty much like this, wheel well may be larger/wider. I may be able to make something better later.In lieu of pics, can @cvalue13 or someone create illustrations on a top down and side view of trucks for you to let us know if we're hot or cold? I'd offer to do the illustrations, but I'm just happy if I don't leave boogers on my screen at the end of the day.
Yeah I noticed that too, however he could be walking that way for any number of reasons. I hope you're right but if so I do wonder what the hell they're putting in the frunk if, as Greg mentions, it doesn't actually go deep past the windshield. Tesla is usually pretty good at tight packaging.Well in the picture he's heading back toward the bed. I believe it should go underneath the bed right before the rear axles. Given two ideas, the rear will lower and raise more than the front and the compressor hookup is also in the bed, shorter lines running to suspension and air hookup much more efficient and prob a lot more room back there
The reason that the original S had enough room for a spare tire: it was a single motor (in the rear) so the space in the front was available for a larger frunk. The dual motor S definitely does not have enough room for a spare. I would love to be able to put a spare in frunk of the CT, but that would require a lot of space (we will see!).The original Model S Frunk could fit a spare, that massive dash makes me think it would easily fit.
Understanding you weren't trying to be too exact, and nor was my prior overlay of yesterday being too exact, either - but your sketch here is way off of proportion - you have the nose/bumper for the CT way out further than actualPretty much like this, wheel well may be larger/wider. I may be able to make something better later.
While we know most of the front end opens up, the actual opening inside is substantially narrower, as we can see from the manufacturing photo. I suspect they open most of the front to avoid cutting the stainless steel and light bar. The frunk will be much narrower to accommodate the wheels, etc.Understanding you weren't trying to be too exact, and nor was my prior overlay of yesterday being too exact, either - but your sketch here is way off of proportion - you have the nose/bumper for the CT way out further than actual
Pretty much like this, wheel well may be larger/wider. I may be able to make something better later.