Cybertruck VIN decoder! -- GVWR Vehicle Weight Revealed + **only** Dual and Tri Motor for 2024

[KScheidt]

So just made up.

I wouldn't say made up, just taken with a grain of salt. I fully expect people with connections have solid answers on many of these questions but cannot burn their sources because that would have a huge impact on their relationships and potentially those people's livelihoods.

In the 500Mi thread, CValue yesterday noted that there would likely be a Standard (Dual Motor) and Performance (Tri-Motor) and sure enough the VIN Decoder released today essentially confirmed as much.

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[Crissa]

I wouldn't say made up, just taken with a grain of salt. I fully expect people with connections have solid answers on many of these questions but cannot burn their sources because that would have a huge impact on their relationships and potentially those people's livelihoods.

In the 500Mi thread, CValue yesterday noted that there would likely be a Standard (Dual Motor) and Performance (Tri-Motor) and sure enough the VIN Decoder released today essentially confirmed as much.

And I said there would be two models on delivery day years before cvalue joined the forum.

So what?

-Crissa

 

[SKUUT]

It will also help with degradation over time. I'd like to get several years of use out of the CT and would be willing to pay a significant premium for additional range as insurance for this.

Agreed, all added bonuses to a required use case. A larger pack means fewer charging cycles. Which also means more home charging and less supercharger use, likely paying for itself long before the truck's end of life.

Yup same thing here, I'm in Nebraska and routinely drive (non interstate) into the middle of the state and back to Omaha in a day. In winter when pulling a trailer when there are no super chargers on the route having the longer range would really help!

Has anyone used insulating panels? A camper towing / EV driving Canuck (like myself) vouched for this product in a youtube video that I came across, not sure how effective this stuff is. I could see double bubble insulation reducing range loss.

https://evinsulate.com/products/tesla-model-3-battery-pack-insulation?variant=41171435192485

 

[Crimson_Fate]

At worst I could see them releasing a 425-450 mile version since the 4680's are still not at the expected density so a full pack yielding up to 15% less range would not surprise me.

But releasing a performance CT with no difference other then a motor would be a hard no for me.

 

[KScheidt]

And I said there would be two models on delivery day years before cvalue joined the forum.

So what?

-Crissa

I wasn't trying to side with one person over another, just noting that they've been right in the past and that you cannot immediately dismiss someone simply because they won't burn their source. Like I said, take it with a grain of salt and go from there. All of this will be moot in forty days or so anyway . . .

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

If Cybertruck has a 3500lb cargo capacity, then at Class G it weighs no more than 5500lbs.

Tesla will have to put the 'DUEL' CT on a serious diet to get it under 6000lbs....maybe they've got it right with the 'exoskeleton'

 

[greggertruck]

did you yoink this thread?

what?

 

[Crissa]

I wasn't trying to side with one person over another, just noting that they've been right in the past and that you cannot immediately dismiss someone simply because they won't burn their source. Like I said, take it with a grain of salt and go from there. All of this will be moot in forty days or so anyway . . .

They're consistently wrong as well. That they were right about one thing that others said first is hardly evidence that their guesses are better or worse. It's still a guess.

The important thing is, do they admit it's a guess and do they admit when it's wrong?

-Crissa

 

[Arctic_White]

I didn't see this in the thread yet but the pics of the spec sheet captured a few months back show the VIN for a Dual Motor Test/Release Candidate. The VIN indicates that while it is a Dual Motor, it falls in the "H" GVWR and thus the heavier of the two options. Perhaps Dual Motor has an LR battery and Tri is actually lighter for performance (and/or efficiency can be made up with variability of the Tri motor platform). Speculation obviously but open to others thoughts . . .

Note: There was also a box for "Battery" so I feel like that is a solid indicator that they are at least testing different battery sizes.

I'd happily sacrifice performance (acceleration) for more range. I'm Ok going 0 - 60 in 3.9 seconds rather than 2.9 seconds, if it means 100+ more miles of range.

Who is with me?

 

[Crissa]

I'd happily sacrifice performance (acceleration) for more range. I'm Ok going 0 - 60 in 3.9 seconds rather than 2.9 seconds, if it means 100+ more miles of range.

Who is with me?

That's in how you drive, tho, not the hardware.

-Crissa

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

I wouldn't say made up, just taken with a grain of salt. I fully expect people with connections have solid answers on many of these questions but cannot burn their sources because that would have a huge impact on their relationships and potentially those people's livelihoods.

In the 500Mi thread, CValue yesterday noted that there would likely be a Standard (Dual Motor) and Performance (Tri-Motor) and sure enough the VIN Decoder released today essentially confirmed as much.

We all knew that. It's been said repeatedly and they were shown on reveal day. However, the VIN decoder ALSO says the Performance has a 1000lb higher rating. The tri motor power train only adds about 70lbs vs dual motor. That would strongly support greater battery size.

Cval is stating something as fact, not that "somebody told me". Most of those "told mes" have been false.

 

[KScheidt]

They're consistently wrong as well. That they were right about one thing that others said first is hardly evidence that their guesses are better or worse. It's still a guess.

The important thing is, do they admit it's a guess and do they admit when it's wrong?

-Crissa

I don't lurk/read enough to know everyone's consistency, I originally just wanted to know whether they were claiming it to be speculation or informed. I only commented further that just because someone says their input is informed but is unwilling to burn their source does not necessarily make the input speculation. It only means that you have to take it with a grain of salt and weigh the accuracy based on whether you believe the person or not. Not trying to get into any disputes over who is right or wrong. Perhaps posting in the first place was my mistake.

 

[KScheidt]

We all knew that. It's been said repeatedly and they were shown on reveal day. However, the VIN decoder ALSO says the Performance has a 1000lb higher rating. The tri motor power train only adds about 70lbs vs dual motor. That would strongly support greater battery size.

Cval is stating something as fact, not that "somebody told me". Most of those "told mes" have been false.

Well the VIN from the Dual Motor photographed a few months back showed an H-Code for GVWR indicating that it was in the higher weight category so I'm not sure that is necessarily true at face value. Unless I'm missing something of course (highly possible).

 

[Crissa]

Perhaps posting in the first place was my mistake.

Gotta be careful who you're quoting, as you note, it comes with connotations you may not be aware of.

I've contradicted people who quoted me, too, 'cause when it's a guess I want it to be known it's a guess or a cite.

-Crissa

 

[mhaze]

Just as you said.. the GVWR includes both the vehicle weight and the cargo/passengers. So if the Dual motor weighs 5k lbs and a 3500 lbs cargo capacity its GVWR is 8500lbs (class G), but the Tri motor weighs 5900 lbs and a 3500lbs cargo capacity then it is a class H with a GVWR of 9400lbs. That was my point.

The GVWR must also include the trailer tongue weight.

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