Rumor: $98900 price for tri-motor Cybertruck??

[IronStation]

Now you got me intrigued. Would the car stop at the edge?

Hmmm,

I am going with a YES!

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[lowtek]

GMC had a truck called the C3 that had 4-wheel steering ... was cool but they discontinued it

 

[hridge2020]

Is this real?

So basically, they added $30,000.00 to the pre-release price of Cybertruck.
( I remember Rivian up the price too on reservation holders, then lots of customers started canceling orders, then they reinstated the price holders had reserved. )

Rivian walks back price increase for reservation holders, CEO apologizes

 

[Diehard]

Hmmm,

I am going with a YES!

the question is what is the baseline for FSD? Continue doing what you are doing unless you have a reason not to (a dog, pedestrian, incoming car,…..). If Dojo is trained based on what Tesla drivers do and none of them have gone over the cliff, has a programmer thought of it to put something like visible pavement marking as a condition for motion? If so, what does it do off road?….. I am sure these questions sound stupid to anyone that has given some thought to this before but I never thought about how the vision only machine thinks.

 

[kbolt]

Buyers are paying for latest automobile technology that Elon insisted on. High tech isn’t cheap. RWS alone added thousands to the cost of the vehicle.

The Model 3 just got a refresh with upgraded tech and the price is lower than reveal night.

 

[Sirfun]

Here's video from a year ago. FSD with snow on a dirt road.

 

[IronStation]

the question is what is the baseline for FSD? Continue doing what you are doing unless you have a reason not to (a dog, pedestrian, incoming car,…..). If Dojo is trained based on what Tesla drivers do and none of them have gone over the cliff, has a programmer thought of it to put something like visible pavement marking as a condition for motion? If so, what does it do off road?….. I am sure these questions sound stupid to anyone that has given some thought to this before but I never thought about how the vision only machine thinks.

Actually, the answer is simple. While in FSD it is determining the route ahead. You see it on the screen. The second you intentionally deviate from that route you disengage FSD Beta and you would then be actively driving the car yourself off that cliff.

 

[Diehard]

Actually, the answer is simple. While in FSD it is determining the route ahead. You see it on the screen. The second you intentionally deviate from that route you disengage FSD Beta and you would then be actively driving the car yourself off that cliff.

Good point. If FSD stands for Full Self-Driving ( not Fool’s Self-Driving) and handing it over to a person at some point is not an option, it will likely stop when it does not know what it is doing. Now we need a cliff and a volunteer to test it.

 

[PilotPete]

IF there is a true massive price jump, I have options.

I’ve said I’m not here because it is a truck. I’m here for the tech and the capabilities. At anywhere near this ”alleged” price, the S Plaid or even the rumor of the new 3+Ludacris model is a much better bang for my bucks. And no, Chevy, Ford, Rivian aren’t even on my radar. Again, I ain’t here because it’s a truck. I currently drive a 2 seater (With a frunk). That’s all I really need.

 

[sstevens805]

I'm seeing rumors on FB that it was 4 people receiving the same phone call, 7k for FSD, and 11k for the wrap.

Obviously links, first hand encounters, etc. not included. It's getting wild out there. Next rumor might be naming rights for your first born male child.

 

[kbolt]

You

A $50k Dual Motor is not happening. Add another $20k or so and you will be in the ballpark. Yes, expect a 40% ballpark increase from 2019 reveal prices 4-years ago.

Tesla has a huge Cybertruck reservation list. Tesla can charge pretty much what they want for the first few years because of the insane demand for the product.

Understand that just because they have 2 million people on the wait-list doesn't mean they can burn 90% of them by jacking up the prices. Once those people are gone, they're gone. They will probably spread negativity about being burned for years and years to millions of people. You can't just burn good faith with most people and expect everything to be okay.

 

[cvalue13]

The Model 3 just got a refresh with upgraded tech and the price is lower than reveal night.

And I can buy a cutting edge 50” flatscreen TV for considerably less than I could 5 years ago on old tech

it’s not merely about it the tech is new. It’s about available alternatives, competition, and market saturation.

is there anyone who walked away from the Q3 call still thinking that the price cuts are NOT motivated primarily by demand issues?!

because I’d like to hear their reasoning.

and in case someone wants to get into it being a result of reductions in COGS​

the 10-Q makes clear that COGS didn’t reduce because of lower manufacturing costs YoY, but rather a shift toward lower-end cars in the sales mix.​

which not only makes the COGS point, but the demand point​

CT upon release will be a new and rare bird for Tesla: a ~volume unit with near/medium term demand strength

this view would suggest that current pricing of model 3, Y, etc., compared to their unveil is potentially (likely?) unrelated to inferences applicable to CT pricing

I have no idea how it’ll be priced. Just that M3/Y current cost vs their unveil doesn’t persuade me either way (in fact, could be argued to suggest CT needs to be priced higher)

 

[cvalue13]

You can't just burn good faith with most people and expect everything to be okay.

I mean, many companies, including Tesla, have done just that and been fine

the Model 3 is selling fine, despite Tesla “burning” the majority of reservations holders

which is to say: Tesla can simultaneously know the principle that burning people is bad, but not agree with you that what they’re doing is burning anyone in any material way that can be avoided

 

[IronStation]

A $50k Dual Motor is not happening. Add another $20k or so and you will be in the ballpark. Yes, expect a 40% ballpark increase from 2019 reveal prices 4-years ago.

Tesla has a huge Cybertruck reservation list. Tesla can charge pretty much what they want for the first few years because of the insane demand for the product.

In Tesla's world and to disrupt the ICE trucks:

If you are any other car company in the world, then I believe you would be 100% right.

 

[cvalue13]

In Tesla's world and to disrupt the ICE trucks:

here’s the continuing problem/confusion on this forum:

what’s being released on Nov. 30th may not be what Tesla believes will disrupt ICE trucks

the may merely (and quite reasonably) believe that what’s happening on Nov. 30 is the first step towards what will eventually distrupt ICE trucks.

it is unpersuasive when people’s arguments essentially assume that what Tesla is releasing on Nov. 30 is teslas first AND last word on the matter.

this is a discussion about Nov 30 release, not the end game.

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