Reddit post show someone just posting a contract copy and price for Tri- Motor

[ED_SFO]

Does anyone know if this becomes the case that Tri-Motor base model qualifies for EV Tax Credit, what if you select one option, be it wheels, FSD, etc, and it goes over $80k, do you lose the credit? Or would any added options, or even taxes, title, etc not count in the EV tax credit limit and it still be applicable since base price is under?

I do believe the IRA credit is based on the MSRP for the vehicle before options. I do not believe a tri motor will start under $85k. That was always the halo trim and didn't need to be super affordable. The dual motor on the other hand needs to be around $60k after ira. A dual CT cannot be the same price as a model y performance after IRA. My guess.

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[cvalue13]

Does anyone know if this becomes the case that Tri-Motor base model qualifies for EV Tax Credit, what if you select one option, be it wheels, FSD, etc, and it goes over $80k, do you lose the credit? Or would any added options, or even taxes, title, etc not count in the EV tax credit limit and it still be applicable since base price is under?

it counts MSRP plus installed options (not including TTL).

FSD wouldn’t count (I’m told by folks around here) but any other options selected at configuration would count.

So, upgraded wheel/tire packages are a clear and typical ‘installed option’ that goes into MSRP.

But also will be included in MSRP will be the Tesla ‘accessory team’ items such as the light bar, rack, because these will be factory install only - eg not available at Later date through service center, etc. (at least for now).

given (in my view) what Tesla charges for ‘accessories’, if base MSRP is anywhere near $80K(and they otherwise qualify for the rebate), folks will have to do without or those accessories will get REAL expensive (an extra $7,500 penalty)

Here’s from DOE website, which mirrors IRS guidance:

“The MSRP can be found on the vehicle’s window sticker, which is also known as the “Monroney label”; the MSRP for this purpose includes any trim, options, or accessories for the particular vehicle and excludes the destination fee and dealer-provided options and accessories.”

 

[SoCalSteve]

The tri-motor is an extra $15k on the X.
Any reason we shouldn't expect a similar price shift on the CT?

I can see these rolling out for $80k & $95k.

 

[Rutrow]

The tri-motor is an extra $15k on the X.
Any reason we shouldn't expect a similar price shift on the CT?

I can see these rolling out for $80k & $95k.

Plaid uses carbon wrapped rotors. I'm not saying the Tri-Motor CyberTruck won't use carbon wrapped rotors, just that it doesn't need to. Plaid is going for 200 mph speeds that the CyberTruck shouldn't be going for. Of course if Elon wants CWR for "technology bandwagon" purposes, it'll have them whether it needs it or not. ?

 

[SoCalSteve]

CT was quoted initially as 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. Are those 'plaid' speeds? I think that was a selling point for some.

 

[Rutrow]

CT was quoted initially as 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. Are those 'plaid' speeds? I think that was a selling point for some.

Carbon Wrapped Rotors aren't needed for 0-60 times, they're needed for top speed RPMs. I will never have my CyberTruck over 100 mph so I don't want to pay for exotic motors that I (nor anyone else) will ever need.

 

[RVAC]

Carbon Wrapped Rotors aren't needed for 0-60 times, they're needed for top speed RPMs. I will never have my CyberTruck over 100 mph so I don't want to pay for exotic motors that I (nor anyone else) will ever need.

Hence the dual motor ...

 

[CyberGus]

Plaid uses carbon wrapped rotors. I'm not saying the Tri-Motor CyberTruck won't use carbon wrapped rotors, just that it doesn't need to. Plaid is going for 200 mph speeds that the CyberTruck shouldn't be going for. Of course if Elon wants CWR for "technology bandwagon" purposes, it'll have them whether it needs it or not. ?

Maybe Cybertruck needs CF-wrapped motors to go 100 MPH because it uses a lower gear ratio to get better torque at lower speed?

 

[Gurule92]

Does anyone know if this becomes the case that Tri-Motor base model qualifies for EV Tax Credit, what if you select one option, be it wheels, FSD, etc, and it goes over $80k, do you lose the credit? Or would any added options, or even taxes, title, etc not count in the EV tax credit limit and it still be applicable since base price is under?

Word on the street is software doesnt count in regard to tax credit. Wheels prbably would

 

[SolarWizard]

Carbon Wrapped Rotors aren't needed for 0-60 times, they're needed for top speed RPMs. I will never have my CyberTruck over 100 mph so I don't want to pay for exotic motors that I (nor anyone else) will ever need.

I think you’re confusing ground speed and RPM. Surely a vehicle designed for 10k+ towing will have higher numerical gear reduction (lower gearing) resulting in higher motor rpm for the same ground speed

 

[SlightlySinged]

Maybe Cybertruck needs CF-wrapped motors to go 100 MPH because it uses a lower gear ratio to get better torque at lower speed?

Also raises the question of whether or not all the motors will have the same ratio?

 

[Rutrow]

I think you’re confusing ground speed and RPM. Surely a vehicle designed for 10k+ towing will have higher numerical gear reduction (lower gearing) resulting in higher motor rpm for the same ground speed

No, I'm not confusing it, I'm using known facts to arrive at a reasonable conclusion about what kind of motor a CyberTruck will have. I take the fact that three carbon wrapped Model 3 motors can haul >82,000 lbs (Semi) and conclude that it would be a costly waste of expensive motors to use those in a truck that only needs to be able to tow 14,000 lbs. It would be overkill to gear the CyberTruck motors to such a low gear ratio that a reasonable top speed would require carbon wrapped motors.
Therefore, my conclusion that non carbon wrapped motors are more than capable, and cheaper, for the CyberTruck. The best carbon wrapping is no carbon wrapping. And using existing motors and gear cases is better than starting a whole new motor manufacturing line if it's not needed.

 

[PilotPete]

I think you’re confusing ground speed and RPM. Surely a vehicle designed for 10k+ towing will have higher numerical gear reduction (lower gearing) resulting in higher motor rpm for the same ground speed

They may not need a different gear ratio…

And don’t call me Shirley!

 

[anionic1]

Keep in mind that a $80k Cybertruck is $7500 more expensive than a $79,999 one.

I expect all trims at reveal to be under the $79k limit.

Remind me, does the $7500 credit go on the out the door price? so if i chose $10k in accessories on a $75k truck it would put me over the treshold and no credit? Thanks,

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