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Updated, looks like RN11283XXX and a couple RN11285XXX getting in on the action now. Pretty soon gonna have to track delivered perhaps, but might be hard to do
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Looks like 70-80% are ordering when they get the invite. Looks like there isn't much deterrent among the members of this community with still wanting the truck with all the range, towing, gaps, etc.

Congrats to anyone who now has their truck.
 

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But that doesn't mean that the Cybertruck won't get autopilot or advance autopilot. It may not even mean that it doesn't get FSD.

All the vehicles with HW4 are in the same boat. HW3 is where the focus is. HW4 is behind HW3 cars in FSD. The Cybertruck may just get an older FSD.
Not correct.

HW4 vehicles are on exactly the same FSD build as the rest of us.

The below is from TeslaFi for 2023.44.30.8.

Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck Order Charts: Geography, Model Type, Options, RNs Ordered  (Final Update 2/20/2024) 1705516317138


CT is drive by wire - could be quite different from other vehicles in terms of interface. Also ethernet instead of CAN. They definitely need to do some integration & testing before enabling AP/FSD.
 

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Not correct.

HW4 vehicles are on exactly the same FSD build as the rest of us.

The below is from TeslaFi for 2023.44.30.8.

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CT is drive by wire - could be quite different from other vehicles in terms of interface. Also ethernet instead of CAN. They definitely need to do some integration & testing before enabling AP/FSD.
That doesn't show the entire story, AFAIK.
First, you can't look at A version and see the difference, that's because the cars ran different versions most of last year. The USS FSD vehicles were on a 2023 branch version for most of the year, while the non-USS vehicles were on a 2023 branch version.
While the 2023 branch was adding new features, it didn't have FSD active. The 2022 branch wasn't getting the same updates, but it did some other and did have FSD enabled.

It does, at first look, appear as if both sets of vehicles are on the same branch now, but I think that I'm still hearing that the non-FSS vehicles don't have summon enabled yet.

My information is based on what happened last year and Elon's statement.
 

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That doesn't show the entire story, AFAIK.
First, you can't look at A version and see the difference, that's because the cars ran different versions most of last year. The USS FSD vehicles were on a 2023 branch version for most of the year, while the non-USS vehicles were on a 2023 branch version.
While the 2023 branch was adding new features, it didn't have FSD active. The 2022 branch wasn't getting the same updates, but it did some other and did have FSD enabled.

It does, at first look, appear as if both sets of vehicles are on the same branch now, but I think that I'm still hearing that the non-FSS vehicles don't have summon enabled yet.

My information is based on what happened last year and Elon's statement.
I follow this very closely. Infact I maintain the FSD release build history thread on TMC.

Let me assure you HW4 is not the reason CT doesn't have AP yet.

ps : I don't expect AP on CT to take a very long time to appear. 3 to 6 months, IMO.
 


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I follow this very closely. Infact I maintain the FSD release build history thread on TMC.

Let me assure you HW4 is not the reason CT doesn't have AP yet.

ps : I don't expect AP on CT to take a very long time to appear. 3 to 6 months, IMO.
I never meant to suggest that it was HW4.

My take is that they really just been able to get enough experience for the internal team to Q/A it yet.
They may have to run it through the training system again, because of differently placed cameras. But I haven't seen / heard that the cars have to be run separately.

The whole Tesla Vision / USS, as well as HW4, thing was a pretty big delta though.

So what's your estimate? I'd be surprised if AutoPilot wasn't here by the end of March, and FSD will probably follow in the next bit minor FSD release. (Although there is indications that the employee Cybertrucks have FSD 12 on them already, but disabled). And I'm guessing that no one is really seeing those getting registered anywhere yet.
 

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Smaller and smaller batches of FS invites. March to 1,000 invites/orders so we can put this "limited edition" nonsense to bed.
Thak you for all the data input, it's Awesome.
I got the email invite yesterday and ordered the AWD. I've waited so long for the Cybertruck, but didn't really want the FS plus the loss of the $7,500.
I have no clue when I'd get a non-FS and didn't want to wait another year so I bit the bullet and ordered.
Read a thread that someone was told you can downgrade, but I called yesterday and the person talked to management and they said you cannot do that. Only thing you can do is delay the FS.
Oh well, at least I'll get to have one within a few months.
 


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Smaller and smaller batches of FS invites. March to 1,000 invites/orders so we can put this "limited edition" nonsense to bed.
Ready for the "line cutting" to stop once the FS have run their course, I certainly hope it is only 1,000 but it is definitely looking like more than 1.000 of them are going to be sold based on current data and chatter.
 

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Ready for the "line cutting" to stop once the FS have run their course, I certainly hope it is only 1,000 but it is definitely looking like more than 1.000 of them are going to be sold based on current data and chatter.
Yeah, I seriously doubt that it's only 1000 units since there are now 918 orders in the tracker here. Even considering many tesla fans would potentially find their way here and input their order, do we really think that almost all of them would? I'd speculate that even 50% would likely be too high.
 

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Yeah, I seriously doubt that it's only 1000 units since there are now 918 orders in the tracker here. Even considering many tesla fans would potentially find their way here and input their order, do we really think that almost all of them would? I'd speculate that even 50% would likely be too high.
Yea, I agree, I think 50% would be crazy high. Think maybe 10% which would unfortunately support the 10,000+ FS already sold and signal that they intend to go through a big chunk of the 2.1 million reservation holders to see how many they can sell.
 

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I really think the CT doesn't have autopilot because they're still tweaking the software that controls the rear steering. If they have 7 more degrees of movement for the rear wheels, that changes the driving profile entirely. They probably need to finish that before they apply AP/FSD functionality.
 

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Ready for the "line cutting" to stop once the FS have run their course, I certainly hope it is only 1,000 but it is definitely looking like more than 1.000 of them are going to be sold based on current data and chatter.
IMO, Tesla will sell FS until they are ready to ramp up. How the production ramp up progresses will dictate when they start the general production since it would be difficult to sell enough FS to fill the production of say over 5K per month. Definitely not 10k per month.

Unfortunately the feeling I’m getting is that the ramp up is slower than many anticipated.

So, it might be Q3 before we see general orders open up …
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