Only limited edition $99k/$120k Foundation Series Cybertruck’s for 2024?

[Longranger]

This CT journey has been interesting to say the least. CT design and capabilities has elicited a huge emotional response from more people than any vehicle in recent history. It is so cool, capable, a tech showcase and in the public’s mind affordable until the delivery event.

The disappointment many have expressed since is very understandable but has gotten out of control. Poor communication by Tesla has made things a bit worse.

IMHO the CT is a good value at projected nonfoundation pricing. Not so much in the FS form. The first 50k or so will go to the wealthy excited fan base at a premium. Get over it if you can wait.

people use the term “fuck you money” as a permission to indulge. Even if you can afford it who do you think will feel pregnant with regret when prices come down in 12 months?

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[Deleted member 8371]

Yes, and many people who preordered tri motor in 2019 are switching to AWD because the only benefit is now 0-60 time. This tired argument has very little meaning. There would be a lot more tri motors selling if they had delivered on the 500 miles of range without the extender, even at 120k.

Yeah, I’m a little disappointed, maybe a little more than a little. About the loss of the 500 miles, and the loss of the pull out ramp those two things were the most important thing to me and I lost both of them, they want to charge another 15,000 to get me closer to that so we’re looking at 135,000.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Maybe the “sold out” is a reflection of how many units they expect/believe they can produce in 2024? Elon has said the ramp is going slower than expected and has previously said how complicated and difficult the truck is to produce. None us know what is actually going on behind closed doors so all we can do is wait for our opportunity to order the truck and wait for delivery.

FWIW, I’m no Elon fan at all. I think he’s a bigoted bully who throws his weight around being the richest man in the world to compensate for probably being bullied himself as a child.

I currently own Teslas and have been looking forward to this truck like everyone else. I see buying it as less benefiting Elon, as I’m helping the folks behind the scenes working their butts off that have no control over what garbage comes out his mouth.

I also do not understand all of this “difficult to produce” mumbo jumbo. True or not it is too vague for me. Personally I would like to know whether ‘difficult’ really means too time consuming for mass production (perhaps because of the bending they have to do, or because of the grinding/polishing they do, etc.) or that it means something else. It goes without saying that they will try to remove whatever roadblocks they currently face; I just want to know what they mean.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

This CT journey has been interesting to say the least. CT design and capabilities has elicited a huge emotional response from more people than any vehicle in recent history. It is so cool, capable, a tech showcase and in the public’s mind affordable until the delivery event.

The disappointment many have expressed since is very understandable but has gotten out of control. Poor communication by Tesla has made things a bit worse.

IMHO the CT is a good value at projected nonfoundation pricing. Not so much in the FS form. The first 50k or so will go to the wealthy excited fan base at a premium. Get over it if you can wait.

people use the term “fuck you money” as a permission to indulge. Even if you can afford it who do you think will feel pregnant with regret when prices come down in 12 months?

I do not consider myself wealthy but I will order a Cybertruck at the FS price if invited for 2 reasons; (1) I have been saving for 7 years for my next car, and (2) I am not getting any younger and, since this thing began, have retired and want to be able to enjoy my it. Maybe I am wealthy because I saved the money when others might not have been able to do so but I do not think of that as wealthy since I only saved what I was paying monthly for my last car.

 

[Cyber Man]

Some of us reserved FSD at $7K so, yes, that would make the markup $13K. But I doubt many would think the wheel and tire upgrade a throwaway and some have priced that at $4K. I have the Tesla connectivity and would definitively get that and it is worth $1K. In fact, everything BUT the power sharing options would have been on my list of things to get, the difference only being ‘when’ I would have gotten them. So I see the markup more like $7K.

I wonder if maybe the ‘markup’ is less an issue than the massive increase in base price for the dual from $50K to $80K. I semi-quote the word “increase” because I am guessing that most people that put in reservations budgeted $50K for the dual, and a 60% increase would never have been imaginable as reasonable/possible for budgeting purposes. When you add a $7K ‘markup’ to $30K then I can see it seem like adding insult to injury even if the items in the $20K are mostly reasonable.

Sorry for going a bit off topic. I would gladly pay the $7K extra to put in my order now.

Yes, and I think Dual motor will never go back to 50K in the foreseeable future. We keep comparing to Model Y price drops, but CT is in a different category. If they keep improving range and charging curve, CT prices will not go down. Worst case after 2-3 years they might knock off 5k and tax credit might help, but that’s the max IMO. So the question is whether I’m ok to wait for 2-3 years to save 5K-12K if budget is the main reason to defer.

 

[Sjohnson20]

Of course the price will drop some one day, but for me I want to enjoy it now.

 

[smggsm]

Any one remember Elon Musk in 2013 when he mentioned that the company making the Model 3, with a price promised in the $35,000 range.

million customers placed $1,000 deposits on new Model 3s after the the Tesla Model 3 did eventually arrive in 2017, the $35,000 version till today was nowhere to be found.

i dont think they will produce the 60k CT.

 

[CyberT1]

There’s no way. If only 5% of the 2 million preorders convert to the Foundation Series, that’s 100,000 orders. Tesla will not produce 100,000 trucks in 2024, and I think it’s safe to say that the Foundation Series conversion rate is greater than 5%.

The more compelling question is will we even see regular priced vehicles in 2025? Or will production still fail to meet demand.

What do you get in the foundation series? I was thinking of switching mine to AWD. I am now waiting for my vin.

 

[VR Driving]

Any one remember Elon Musk in 2013 when he mentioned that the company making the Model 3, with a price promised in the $35,000 range.

million customers placed $1,000 deposits on new Model 3s after the the Tesla Model 3 did eventually arrive in 2017, the $35,000 version till today was nowhere to be found.

i dont think they will produce the 60k CT.

The Model 3 is effectively less than $35k for a long time already.

Cybertruck will go down in price once its ramp is complete. The 2nd line at Austin hasn't even been built yet.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

This CT journey has been interesting to say the least. CT design and capabilities has elicited a huge emotional response from more people than any vehicle in recent history. It is so cool, capable, a tech showcase and in the public’s mind affordable until the delivery event.

The disappointment many have expressed since is very understandable but has gotten out of control. Poor communication by Tesla has made things a bit worse.

IMHO the CT is a good value at projected nonfoundation pricing. Not so much in the FS form. The first 50k or so will go to the wealthy excited fan base at a premium. Get over it if you can wait.

people use the term “fuck you money” as a permission to indulge. Even if you can afford it who do you think will feel pregnant with regret when prices come down in 12 months?

Your last point is a great one. Everyone who's pissed about pay to play with FS is also going to get to laugh at everyone who paid to play in 24 months. There's two sides to every coin, once a non-FS CT is sold, this likely depreciates the FS CT by $27k overnight. People waiting will get their revenge on us FS people's net worth in 2025.

 

[Longranger]

Your last point is a great one. Everyone who's pissed about pay to play with FS is also going to get to laugh at everyone who paid to play in 24 months. There's two sides to every coin, once a non-FS CT is sold, this likely depreciates the FS CT by $27k overnight. People waiting will get their revenge on us FS people's net worth in 2025.

As someone who has regretted some of my indulgent purchases of the past I felt obliged to ask the question. If there were an extra zero on my retirement savings it would feel like less of a decision. If you are wealthy or this is a long time dream you can afford go for it.1

 

[smggsm]

The Model 3 is effectively less than $35k for a long time already.

Cybertruck will go down in price once its ramp is complete. The 2nd line at Austin hasn't even been built yet.

before saving The cheapest model 3 to purchase 39k , 7 years later there is no model 3 for 35k before saving

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Your last point is a great one. Everyone who's pissed about pay to play with FS is also going to get to laugh at everyone who paid to play in 24 months. There's two sides to every coin, once a non-FS CT is sold, this likely depreciates the FS CT by $27k overnight. People waiting will get their revenge on us FS people's net worth in 2025.

That is true (re: ‘revenge’) but 2 years is a big deal for me right now so I don’t care. Crossing my fingers for an invite.

 

[smggsm]

Your last point is a great one. Everyone who's pissed about pay to play with FS is also going to get to laugh at everyone who paid to play in 24 months. There's two sides to every coin, once a non-FS CT is sold, this likely depreciates the FS CT by $27k overnight. People waiting will get their revenge on us FS people's net worth in 2025.

at this rate about 50 deliveries a month you can still sell your CT and make good money
next year when clause expire.

 

[DumpsterFire]

people use the term “fuck you money” as a permission to indulge. Even if you can afford it who do you think will feel pregnant with regret when prices come down in 12 months?

I can afford it and I won’t feel “pregnant with regret (that’s a really weird term btw….)” “if” the prices come down in 12 months.

I’ll tell you why.

first off, I’m going to be enjoying the absolute shit out of it. It will bring me mucho joy! I don’t put a monetary value on my happiness because joy is almost always a losing proposition that way.

Think “vacations”. Are they a good investment? Fuuuuuck no. You come home with just memories and joy. Hopefully….. ?

Second, because the CT isn’t and shouldn’t be an sound investment. It’s a depreciating asset. If you cannot afford to lose money on a vehicle, you shouldn’t buy it. This is not a hard concept.

Why must everything have an ROI where the metric is money? Can’t something you buy simply bring you joy and that’s the cost?

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