Charging the Cybertruck at home?

[mongo]

I read somewhere that the first gen mobile chargers don’t work on newer vehicles including the cybertruck? I wanted to look for one till I read that.

First gen Wall Connectors set above 48A charge current (60A breaker) don't work.

Sponsored

 

[HaulingAss]

I read somewhere that the first gen mobile chargers don’t work on newer vehicles including the cybertruck? I wanted to look for one till I read that.

That's incorrect, I have one of the older 40 amp Mobile Connectors and it works fine on the Cybertruck.

Who told you differently?

 

[Glockycharms]

That's incorrect, I have one of the older 40 amp Mobile Connectors and it works fine on the Cybertruck.

Who told you differently?

I read it today on the internet, I wish there was a way to try one without buying and realizing it doesn’t work. How can you tell it’s gen 1 by the way?

I am getting 32 amps and 18 mph max now.

 

[HaulingAss]

I read it today on the internet, I wish there was a way to try one without buying and realizing it doesn’t work. How can you tell it’s gen 1 by the way?

I am getting 32 amps and 18 mph max now.

All Tesla Mobile Connectors will work on the Cybertruck. The Gen I Mobile Connector has a different style outlet adapter. The adapters for various outlet types don't have a pigtail cord like they do on Gen 2 and Gen 3 Mobile Connectors.

Be careful using the Gen 1 Mobile Connector at 40 amps because many cheaper 50 amp wall outlets cannot handle supplying a continuous 40 amps! That's probably why Tesla only offers 32 amp Mobile Connectors now.

I would avoid Mobile Connectors for home charging and go with a hardwired unit like the Tesla Wall Connector. They are dead simple to wire and you only need 3 wires instead of the 4 wires required by a NEMA 14-50 outlet. If you are replacing an electrical outlet with a Wall Connector, simply cap the unneeded wire.

When using a wall connector you don't need a potentially problematic GFCI breaker or the more difficult to wire/maintain NEMA 14-50 wall outlet. It's just a more robust solution all around.

 

[Glockycharms]

All Tesla Mobile Connectors will work on the Cybertruck. The Gen I Mobile Connector has a different style outlet adapter. The adapters for various outlet types don't have a pigtail cord like they do on Gen 2 and Gen 3 Mobile Connectors.

Be careful using the Gen 1 Mobile Connector at 40 amps because many cheaper 50 amp wall outlets cannot handle supplying a continuous 40 amps! That's probably why Tesla only offers 32 amp Mobile Connectors now.

I would avoid Mobile Connectors for home charging and go with a hardwired unit like the Tesla Wall Connector. They are dead simple to wire and you only need 3 wires instead of the 4 wires required by a NEMA 14-50 outlet. If you are replacing an electrical outlet with a Wall Connector, simply cap the unneeded wire.

When using a wall connector you don't need a potentially problematic GFCI breaker or the more difficult to wire/maintain NEMA 14-50 wall outlet. It's just a more robust solution all around.

What are you stats on charging with the mobile charger by the way?

 

[Baldyloxx]

I am getting 18 mph using mobile charger it came with. What speed are you getting?

~16

 

[HaulingAss]

What are you stats on charging with the mobile charger by the way?

,
Stats? That's simple. I generally charge with the Wall Connector. I plug it in when I get home, it's ready to go when I'm ready to leave. If I used the Mobile Connector, I would be saying the same thing.

If you have a use case where charge time actually matters, you can calculate the difference like this:

A 32 amp charge will charge at 32/48 the speed of a 48 amp charge. A 40 amp charge will charge at 40/48 the speed of a 48 amp charge. And so on. The numbers only become inaccurate in cold weather if you get down to really low charging power levels, like a 120V 12-16 amp charge (because then a significant percentage of the available power goes towards heating the battery).

 

[Glockycharms]

,
Stats? That's simple. I generally charge with the Wall Connector. I plug it in when I get home, it's ready to go when I'm ready to leave. If I used the Mobile Connector, I would be saying the same thing.

I meant how many mph using Gen 1 mobile plug in charger.

 

[HaulingAss]

I meant how many mph using Gen 1 mobile plug in charger.

See the formulas above. You may have to re-load the page since I edited my post. I pay so little attention to charging speeds because it's always ready to go when I am. When people ask me how long it takes to charge my Cybertruck, I tell them I have no idea, because it has never mattered to me, so I pay no attention to it. I can configure my phone app to notify me when it's reached the charge limit but I have that notification turned off.

 

[Gaximus]

This guy makes great videos, but this video is especially good at explaing what is needed for an electric car. This is also a good video to share with those nay-sayers, that think driving electric, is the same process of filling up gas, once a week at a station.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

first off. Awesome you are moving forward with Tesla about the PowerShare. I havent' heard anything since January 10th. I can't wait to charge at 100amps and higher with the new system instead of 30amp. so for my truck Im charging at 14m/h and that's because I set the truck at only 27amps. Just don't want to pop the 30 amp breakers.

You will never see 100 amps. I happen to own a Gen 1 high power wall charger from 2012 that puts out 80 amps, but no Tesla wall charger sold in the past eight years goes above 48 amps. There were many threads in the old days on melted cables, small fires in connection plugs, etc. Tesla had to dial it way back for a few reasons, but practicality is key. They also learned after the first few years of selling the MS and MX that batteries last longer when charged slower. This is why they advise dialing back the amps where practical, and using Superchargers for 10% or less of total lifetime charging.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Where did you get that table?

I've never seen wire size increase that quickly with relatively short distances. I believe a 6AWG wire would be good for a 100 foot run at 48 amps.

Nope, I had to use #4. Code for 60 amp circuit to get 48 amps at the charger. About 30-ft run.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

First gen Wall Connectors set above 48A charge current (60A breaker) don't work.

I have four wall chargers, including a Gen 1 at my Virginia farm that I personally did the large fuse conversion recall on many years ago (no electronics in that puppy) - back when Tesla would ship stuff like that to consumers, with detailed instructions on DIY upgrades on these high voltage units! That gen 1 HPWC is on a 100-amp breaker and the dip switches (yes that was also a thing) are set to 80 amps. It charges my CT just fine.

 

[Aces-Truck]

In the garage I'm building, I'm going with #4 AWG and a 60A breaker. That will allow for 48A (240V). But currently, I'm charging at a friend's 14-30 outlet, at 24A, using the mobile charger. this adds about 5kwH/hour. So, when I drain down to 20% SOC, it takes about 15 hours to get to 80%. I drain it low before charging back up, to avoid being a pain for the friend.

 

[mongo]

I have four wall chargers, including a Gen 1 at my Virginia farm that I personally did the large fuse conversion recall on many years ago (no electronics in that puppy) - back when Tesla would ship stuff like that to consumers, with detailed instructions on DIY upgrades on these high voltage units! That gen 1 HPWC is on a 100-amp breaker and the dip switches (yes that was also a thing) are set to 80 amps. It charges my CT just fine.

Cool, Tesla calls out the limit I posted likely due to variance on the PWM signal that sets the current limit.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-06CC33AC-2D99-4E39-8E8A-B4248FA1FD9C.html

Sponsored