Let's all let Tesla know we want option to set FSD max speed on the scroll wheel made available.

[DoberManPin-Sure]

I've gone from seldom disengaging FSD in v13.2.9 to disengaging many times per drive in v14.1.4 due to max speed issues. The rest of v14 is better. I've been on v14.1.4 for the last ~800 miles. In my area many of the speed limits shown in FSD are often wrong (sometimes as far off as showing 25 in a 65 mph zone or 55 in a 30mph zone) so FSD suddenly slows down massively due to the incorrect maps. Removing the max speed control is a bad idea and dangerous in this area. It's interesting that my Garmin GPS almost always has the correct speed limit listed. We need the max speed control.

My disengagements are way up too, as are the inaccuracies re: posted speed limit. It was showing 45 last night on the freeway we'd spent 10 miles on already, all with a posted speed limit of 60.

That said, I have found some aspects of the FSD to be improved. Mad Max makes lane changes and performs passes much more like my natural driving style.

Two steps forward and one back is still forward progress IMHO.

I still want my scroll wheel speed adjustment functionality back. No good reason for it to have been removed.

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[DoberManPin-Sure]

It’s a confidence thing I guess. I’ve been telling bandit every day that he is smart and handsome and an excellent driver who can be anything he chooses.
Don’t let anyone ever say that I haven’t done my bit towards FSD development. It’s hard work being nurturing.

I play this for my Beast from time to time:

 

[georgek43]

Thank you, you have captured my experience and my frustration exactly. Solution: This says it all for me: “I still want my scroll wheel speed adjustment functionality back. No good reason for it to have been removed.”

 

[DEAKBS]

Where exactly is the best place to submit input to Tesla about something like this?

 

[georgek43]

Using the new FSD14 I appreciate that the sloth mode will stick to the speed limit. The problem is that what FSD thinks the speed limit is does not match reality. On my country road in the neigborhood the speed limit is 35 mph and 15 in school zones when flashing. My Cybertruck thinks the speed limit is 55 mph so my only option now is to disengage FSD. Traveling through school zones I want the truck to keep up with only going 15 mph while I watch the road closely. Without FSD maintaining the speed where I set it to 15 max, I have to take my focus off the road to constantly check that I haven't crept up over 15. Sloth mode very quickly decides to hit it up to 55 mph in that school zone. I cannot think of a time I will want to change modes on the fly from sloth, to chill or higher. I set it at one mode and leave it there for most all driving. Give us an option to change the function of the scroll wheel back to max speed or to choose modes.

I'm not sure who thought sloth was less aggressive than chill but it is way more agressive than the old chill mode. My wife would freak out sometimes on what the truck would do on chill before. I am not looking forward to what she will think even using sloth mode now. Fantom breaking is also back in situations where I have the right of way and the truck sees a vehicle waiting on me to go and mid intersection it decides slamming on breaks is called for. It has been about 6 months or more since FSD was doing that but seems to be a feature of sloth mode.

For those who think the cutoff for being pulled over for speeding is 8-9 mph over don't take into account that depending on an officer's bias with Tesla, a Cybertruck can elicit a response different than other more generic vehicles get to slide by with.

A positive note on the new FSD is that in the dark the only way I could keep FSD from telling me to watch the road was to remove my glasses. Now it works fine with my glasses on in the dark.

I want driver control of maximum speed returned. It’s ludicrous and dangerous to have removed it, and it puts all Tesla FSD users at unnecessary legal risk. So many posts are lauding how FSD14 goes fast and reads the traffic well, and only sloth comes even close to the speed limit, assuming it has the speed limit correct- which it often does not. FSD14 not going to play very well in New York
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/15653700/new-1mph-speed-limit-penalty-in-just-weeks/

Where exactly is the best place to submit input to Tesla about something like this?

That’s a good question. Contacting Tesla is extremely frustrating. I have not been able to get a useful email address, or text number or even a website feedback link. Maybe someone else has one.

The Tesla stores all tell me to contact Tesla support on their dedicated number. The service part of the Tesla app, the only other way I know how to interact with a human at Tesla, told me:
“Thank you for your inquiry. At this time, we do advise reaching out to our Customer Support team at 1 (888) 518-3752, your Tesla Advisor or visiting https://www.tesla.com/support” and basically not to bother them.

Good luck with calling the Tesla support team
number. I have called seven times, stayed on hold for over an hour each time and have never spoken to anyone. If you have better luck, please let me know.

Good luck with your Tesla Advisor. Mine told me if I don’t like FSD, don’t use it. Perhaps you’ll have better luck.

I’ve visited https://www.tesla.com/support but cannot find a contact or feedback link- everything is canned and pretty much useless. There’s no actual support- just guides.

I am very frustrated. I traded my Cadillac Lyriq for a more expensive CT. At Cadillac a real person was always just a call away, and they provided excellent concierge service. I was never frustrated over any issues and was treated like a highly valued customer. Tesla has a radically different customer service business model.

I’m open to learning any method you can help me find to get my concerns directly someone in management at Tesla rather than just on an owners forum.

 

[DEAKBS]

I want driver control of maximum speed returned. It’s ludicrous and dangerous to have removed it, and it puts all Tesla FSD users at unnecessary legal risk. So many posts are lauding how FSD14 goes fast and reads the traffic well, and only sloth comes even close to the speed limit, assuming it has the speed limit correct- which it often does not. FSD14 not going to play very well in New York
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/15653700/new-1mph-speed-limit-penalty-in-just-weeks/


That’s a good question. Contacting Tesla is extremely frustrating. I have not been able to get a useful email address, or text number or even a website feedback link. Maybe someone else has one.

The Tesla stores all tell me to contact Tesla support on their dedicated number. The service part of the Tesla app, the only other way I know how to interact with a human at Tesla, told me:
“Thank you for your inquiry. At this time, we do advise reaching out to our Customer Support team at 1 (888) 518-3752, your Tesla Advisor or visiting https://www.tesla.com/support” and basically not to bother them.

Good luck with calling the Tesla support team
number. I have called seven times, stayed on hold for over an hour each time and have never spoken to anyone. If you have better luck, please let me know.

Good luck with your Tesla Advisor. Mine told me if I don’t like FSD, don’t use it. Perhaps you’ll have better luck.

I’ve visited https://www.tesla.com/support but cannot find a contact or feedback link- everything is canned and pretty much useless. There’s no actual support- just guides.

I am very frustrated. I traded my Cadillac Lyriq for a more expensive CT. At Cadillac a real person was always just a call away, and they provided excellent concierge service. I was never frustrated over any issues and was treated like a highly valued customer. Tesla has a radically different customer service business model.

I’m open to learning any method you can help me find to get my concerns directly someone in management at Tesla rather than just on an owners forum.

Yes, I too haven't had the best experience with my local service center team. Thanks for letting me know you've already gone down the rabbit hole of trying to leave feedback. Based off this information, it sounds like the only way to give feedback is to post to Tesla and Elon Musk on X and maybe even create a trending hashtag like, "#bringspeedcontrolbackelon", or something along those lines.

 

[Kengineer]

Yeah don’t miss the scroll wheel speed adjustment at all. I just let it drive.

 

[georgek43]

Yeah don’t miss the scroll wheel speed adjustment at all. I just let it drive.

I’m happy for you- I suspect the problems are location specific. It works great some places. I really need it back for most of my drives, for all the reasons I have previously posted. I’m just asking for the option- keep the speed profiles if enough people like them, but I need a manual max speed setting to be able to use my FSD locally. Right now you can shift speed profiles by moving the scroll wheel left or right, or rolling it up or down, or you can use the screen. We don’t need several ways to do one thing, just return the driver speed control to the scroll wheel AS AN OPTION and I’ll use FSD happily again.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I was speaking to the mother of a local police officer. She told me his favorite saying is "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine" when it comes to speeders. This seems pretty consistent with how the other police in my area ticket, so I would set my traditional cruise at 8 over in well patroled areas.

Since the speed profiles now go in increments of 5, that means I can't go the speed I want. Standard is 5 over and slower than I want to drive, hurry is 10 over and falls into the "you're mine" speed. Not having a say over speed control remains frustrating.

 

[HappyGuy]

Where exactly is the best place to submit input to Tesla about something like this?

Should we all use the Tesla Customer Feedback (Echo) portal?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Using the new FSD14 I appreciate that the sloth mode will stick to the speed limit. The problem is that what FSD thinks the speed limit is does not match reality. On my country road in the neigborhood the speed limit is 35 mph and 15 in school zones when flashing. My Cybertruck thinks the speed limit is 55 mph so my only option now is to disengage FSD. Traveling through school zones I want the truck to keep up with only going 15 mph while I watch the road closely. Without FSD maintaining the speed where I set it to 15 max, I have to take my focus off the road to constantly check that I haven't crept up over 15. Sloth mode very quickly decides to hit it up to 55 mph in that school zone. I cannot think of a time I will want to change modes on the fly from sloth, to chill or higher. I set it at one mode and leave it there for most all driving. Give us an option to change the function of the scroll wheel back to max speed or to choose modes.

I'm not sure who thought sloth was less aggressive than chill but it is way more agressive than the old chill mode. My wife would freak out sometimes on what the truck would do on chill before. I am not looking forward to what she will think even using sloth mode now. Fantom breaking is also back in situations where I have the right of way and the truck sees a vehicle waiting on me to go and mid intersection it decides slamming on breaks is called for. It has been about 6 months or more since FSD was doing that but seems to be a feature of sloth mode.

For those who think the cutoff for being pulled over for speeding is 8-9 mph over don't take into account that depending on an officer's bias with Tesla, a Cybertruck can elicit a response different than other more generic vehicles get to slide by with.

A positive note on the new FSD is that in the dark the only way I could keep FSD from telling me to watch the road was to remove my glasses. Now it works fine with my glasses on in the dark.

I have a conservative attitude about self-driving profiles. I think they should all be capped at 10% over the posted speed limit because anything above that could result in a ticket. If drivers want to go faster they should drop out of FSD. I know this would be an unpopular position since we live in a ‘speeder’ culture, but Tesla should be protecting its FSD deployment first and foremost.

that said, I do not believe these ‘speed’ profiles should even be associated with speed. They should be ‘behavior’ profiles. Rename them: ‘granny’, ‘conservative’, ‘normal’, ‘aggressive’, and [something like] ‘road racer’.

I’d also like to see settings that could apply to any profile, such as ‘no pass on right’, ‘leave slow lane when others are merging’, ‘early signal and lane change with upcoming exit’, ‘no passing with upcoming exit when traffic is apparent’, etc. I won’t hold my breath on any of them.

 

[hemiarch]

Should we all use the Tesla Customer Feedback (Echo) portal?

Yeah…shouting into the void.. Echo echo Cho Cho

 

[Beyond]

Should we all use the Tesla Customer Feedback (Echo) portal?

Good idea. Here's the submission I made on the subject:

I'm now on FSD v14.2.1.25. It's very good but we need the max speed control back. Too often the listed speed limit is FAR different than the real world speed limit. This is especially a problem when the posted limit is 25 or 30 and FSD thinks its 55 or 65. In some areas it's just plain dangerous. Thanks for an otherwise outstanding product.

 

[georgek43]

I was speaking to the mother of a local police officer. She told me his favorite saying is "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine" when it comes to speeders. This seems pretty consistent with how the other police in my area ticket, so I would set my traditional cruise at 8 over in well patroled areas.

Since the speed profiles now go in increments of 5, that means I can't go the speed I want. Standard is 5 over and slower than I want to drive, hurry is 10 over and falls into the "you're mine" speed. Not having a say over speed control remains frustrating.

Exactly. We need driver control of speed management because the profiles are inaccurate, imprecise, unsafe, inadequate and are intentionally far exceeding legal speed limits. Going with the flow of traffic might work on some urban highways, but we don’t all live in Austin or Chicago; there are a lot of secondary roads, suburban streets and neighborhoods where it’s stupidly unsafe and illegal to go so fast over the posted speed limit. and there’s a significant problem with the map dat- the speed limits on the map are often wrong. The errors are clearly on Tesla maps- Google Maps and Apple Maps often display the correct speed limit on my phone while the Tesla map is often way off- both too fast and too slow.

Restoring driver control or at least override of max speed when it’s wrong- or when the driver simply decides to go slower or faster due to the driving conditions- is a simple fix to prevent major safety and legal problems. Tesla can call it an amazing autonomous leap all they want and falsely claim the AI knows speed control better than the driver, but the legal position is clear: Tesla clearly and repeatedly says that “FSD is a driver assistance system”, and is never legally driving the car. If the FSD speeds and the driver gets a speeding ticket, flies through a school zone, doesn’t respond correctly to an emergency vehicle,, or crashes based on its own inputs, Tesla says you were still “driving,” and it’s still going to be your problem.

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