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I wonder what I am doing "wrong" / differently. I am in the low 400's. I have been driving only in chill and mostly low. I don't accelerate obnoxiously (other than a few times for "testing"). But my normal work commute driving with normal traffic I am still in the 430ish range.
Yes same situation here my average is 420
 
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Adding information on a few key variables for anyone wondering:
- ambient temps in NJ have been 75-95 degrees, most of my driving is during the day
- vehicle is parked outside (need to clear out the back of my garage, Cybertruck is looong)
- I installed the included sunshade after a week of ownership, it seems to help quite a bit with reducing solar heating
- try to park in the shade when possible, including on my driveway
- if the truck is parked in the sun, I leave the windows vented to reduce the AC load when I get rolling
- charging only overnight when it's coolest outside, set to start at midnight
- tire pressures at recommended levels of 50 psi
- I do occasionally (every 5 or 10 drives) glance at the power/regen gauge to see if I can find more optimal pedal pressure for terrain and retrain myself to be more efficient. Given the mass of the machine, I'm having to adjust my pedal pressures down from my prior Model S Plaid due to momentum being higher. The better I get at this, the more efficient readings I'm seeing.

Finally, when possible, I hammer it. Now, that doesn't help my efficiency, but it adds immeasurably to the fun factor ;-)
 


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Just drove from suburbs of Philly to Halifax, NC supercharger, non stop. 328 miles with 4% left in tank. 109% efficiency in Chill mode, low ride height. Truck is awesome. -100ft in gain. 323 Wh/mi.
 

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That's most probable. I guess you 300 range people are just cruising around at 30 to 40 with not many stops.
No, the Cybertruck can easily go over 300 miles cruising a bit over 60 mph.

In stop and go traffic, the skill of the driver with the throttle control will have a big impact on efficiency. It's not difficult to master, and it's all common sense, but some people don't care. Because they have far more range than they need and it's pretty inexpensive to fill up each night.

Efficiency hounds can easily get over 300 miles of range going 30 to 40 mph with stops every couple of miles. The trick is long coast downs into the stops. But it's going to take driving all day long to go through the battery doing that! Your average speed is only going to be 25 mph and it will take 12 hours of straight driving to put 300 miles on the truck.
 
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My last couple longer drives, 68-70 miles straight with standard stop signs and traffic lights in 90+ degree temps on sunny days have me using a tick under 20% (18-19.5%) of the battery. That's real-world range of 340-350 miles but that's a lot of driving on back roads. Going above 65mph on highways will reduce that number, but if you need that kind of range it's definitely available to you based on your route and driving style - and that's not even with Chill mode.

The real-world range on my AWD Cybertruck readily exceeds real-world range available on my Model S Plaid even which always fell short of range estimates though the latter should be much more efficient (albeit smaller battery). I wouldn't be surprised at all if Tesla reacted to the range criticism by making sure delivered Cybertrucks, as their newest vehicle, could exceed EPA range estimates to quell the criticism.

PS If you guess the range extender has ~50kwh that implies real-world range, again on back roads, of the AWD with range extender could be 500 miles. Tell me again how Tesla missed the mark?
 

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For start part, EV and ICE are the same. They both need the energy to push a large object to move. Heavier objects need more energy to move, basic physics.
You're missing half the equation though...
 


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Regen during the braking won't get all the energy back.
No, but a lot. Thus, the comparison to ICE cars is poor. EV's tend to have BETTER mileage in low speed stop-and-go, not worse. Where you start to kill your mileage is at high speeds on the highway. The stop and go is an issue if you do very hard acceleration at each stop though, which is tempting with a Tesla.
 

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Avg 50 top end of 60 most of drive. 20 miles 1 way. All flat. Not highway, but generally fast roads. About 20 lights and stop signs.
Could be a number of things... Tire pressure, excess weight (from stock), etc...

Take a screenshot of your 'trips' page so we can see what's up...
 

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My lifetime is about 430Wh, but today I tried only light pressure to the throttle and got closer to 350Wh. Apparently, having a lead foot costs you 25%.

Worth it
 

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Having cross shopped the Rivian R1S (1.5-2.0 mi/kwh) and Hummer EV SUV (1-1.5 mi/kwh) I was hoping my AWD Cybertruck would be able to achieve superior efficiency. Oh, and it has! My hope of 2-2.5 mi/kwh has been blown away. An insane 3.0 mi/kwh! Almost identical to my former Model S Plaid on 21's that averaged 321 Wh/mi over 7,500+ miles.

Oh, and it's been 90+ degrees every day for most of this first month with the truck as we suffer through an interminable heat wave in the Northeast. I should note that the efficiency seems to be regularly improving. 80-90% of my driving has been on sport mode. Only tested chill and custom.

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Well this gives me hope. I am not towing anything I do need a truck sometimes.

Any reasons I shouldn't order it now?
 
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Well this gives me hope. I am not towing anything I do need a truck sometimes.

Any reasons I shouldn't order it now?
You enjoy anticipation? LOL

I've been enjoying it much more than the Model S Plaid and Model X Performance I had previously. I look at, and treat, the truck bed as more of a super massive trunk. People regularly ask if it's hard to drive given the size and my experience is that it feels more like a mid-sized SUV that's far more agile in parking lots. I've owned a couple of Honda Pilots, first gen and second gen, and the second gen Pilot felt much wider and was tougher to manage around town and on local roads than the Cybertruck as steering, braking and suspension were not well tuned on that generation of Pilots. The one caution is in parallel parking where Cybertruck is definitely longer. The width honestly doesn't feel any different to a mid-sized SUV either, which is a real surprise as the F150 definitely feels, rides and drives much more trucky.

Only reason I can see to wait at this point is holding out until late 2024/2025 for the less expensive non-Foundation Series but if you think you'll get FSD and a few of the accessories anyway all I know is that none of us are guaranteed a tomorrow and I don't second guess jumping at one.
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