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Yeah but will the F-150 drive itself?! ;)

I don't plan on jumping my truck off concrete cylinders onto other pieces of concrete. The chevy I owned before this truck would have been scr*wed with this testing.

Isn't the tongue weight only rated for 1100 pounds on this thing? With the moment angle, Coriolis effect, observed humidity, and momentum I bet you had ~4K+ coming down on that casting.
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The frame didn't snap from pulling. It broke the split second after this picture:
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After the frame was cracked/broken when dropping the weight of the truck onto it from that height, it didn't take much force to pull apart the remaining pieces holding the bumper and hitch receiver apart.
the million dollar question would be " how regular steel frame pickup would perform for the exact same drop?
 

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the million dollar question would be " how regular steel frame pickup would perform for the exact same drop?
True. Though, I suspect that it would just bend long before it broke. Cast aluminum isn't known for it's bending.
 

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True. Though, I suspect that it would just bend long before it broke. Cast aluminum isn't known for it's bending.
Bending would reduce its strength and possible break other things.

Depends on the type of steel, though. Higher the hardness, the more brittle it is.

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Isn't the tongue weight only rated for 1100 pounds on this thing? With the moment angle, Coriolis effect, observed humidity, and momentum I bet you had ~4K+ coming down on that casting.
Yes.
Critically, it had >4k going UP on the receiver/ casting, versus 1,100 pounds of force downward.
 


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Yes.
Critically, it had >4k going UP on the receiver/ casting, versus 1,100 pounds of force downward.
I would expect the CT to be able to handle lateral forces and upward and downward forces are a normal force when pulling trailers. However, the suddenness of slamming the hitch down on the concrete like they did off the big concrete pipes is not normally experienced when towing... Like, ever.

However, cutting videos into small chunks to show your hated subject in a poor light is way too common.
 

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I would expect the CT to be able to handle lateral forces and upward and downward forces are a normal force when pulling trailers. However, the suddenness of slamming the hitch down on the concrete like they did off the big concrete pipes is not normally experienced when towing... Like, ever.

However, cutting videos into small chunks to show your hated subject in a poor light is way too common.
Sure, but is there any way to generate 4,000 pounds of upforce when towing?
 

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This is why the hitch ripped off.
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Important to note… the ford couldn’t get across the pipes. It probably would have ripped the whole rear Axel and bed off the F150 from that pipe drop. Such a terrible comparison. The CT got further so it got punished more… plus they didn’t know how to activate the appropriate modes, they didn’t even know how to charge it.
 

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I would expect the CT to be able to handle lateral forces and upward and downward forces are a normal force when pulling trailers. However, the suddenness of slamming the hitch down on the concrete like they did off the big concrete pipes is not normally experienced when towing... Like, ever.

However, cutting videos into small chunks to show your hated subject in a poor light is way too common.
and normal up and down forces would be buffered by the air suspension/tires from both TV and trailer. This one was direct hard hit. We can roughly calculate the up force on the hitch when the drop happened, see the attached figure, A is the hitch point, b is the CT front tires. Both point will support 50% of the total CT ( I make it simple that not counting the drop force from the coming down from concrete pipes), the weight of CB is 7000 lb, so even without the down force , 3500 lb weight is already over the rated 1100 lb tongue weight. The connection between hitch receiver and body frame cannot sustain 3 times of the rated weight, so it obviously severely damage, the pulling f150 only was the last strew of the camel’s back.

Tesla Cybertruck WhistlinDiesel Cybertruck Durability Torture Test #1 (vs F-150) IMG_6682
 


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Sure, but is there any way to generate 4,000 pounds of upforce when towing?
I would hope not. But, porpoising can give it a good shake.
 

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The frame snapping is shocking to me... I guess there really is no replacement for the steel body-on-frame design

Now I really am starting to consider the Silverado EV, with its frame design being another checkbox. I'm RN1151XXXX for a FS Cyberbeast so I still have time to decide

It's coming down to a choice between the Cyberbeast's looks+performance versus an actual EV truck
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and normal up and down forces would be buffered by the air suspension/tires from both TV and trailer. This one was direct hard hit. We can roughly calculate the up force on the hitch when the drop happened, see the attached figure, A is the hitch point, b is the CT front tires. Both point will support 50% of the total CT ( I make it simple that not counting the drop force from the coming down from concrete pipes), the weight of CB is 7000 lb, so even without the down force , 3500 lb weight is already over the rated 1100 lb tongue weight. The connection between hitch receiver and body frame cannot sustain 3 times of the rated weight, so it obviously severely damage, the pulling f150 only was the last strew of the camel’s back.

IMG_6682.png
Also, keep in mind the impact was an upward force and trailer load is a downward force. Swaps the tension and compression members.
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