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Is Tesla Legally required to tell us if a remote driver is in the loop on FSD

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Ttitles says it all. With the weirdness of the latest fsd I have been wondering if their is a remote driver in the loop. How would we know? Does tesla have to disclose this?
Yes, Tesla has an army of remote drivers operating out of Austin and the Philippines. Also the moon landing was faked, the Earth is flat, and 9/11 was an inside job. <Send Post>
 

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Yes, Tesla has an army of remote drivers operating out of Austin and the Philippines. Also the moon landing was faked, the Earth is flat, and 9/11 was an inside job. <Send Post>
You forgot that the moon is also hollow.
 


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You think there's a chance that Tesla has an army of remote operators driving cars?

That's absolutely crazy...like flat earth crazy.

Yes, legally you would need to be informed of that just like you were with camera recording, audio recording, and FSD actual driving.
There are! I was at the center in India where they have 50,000 remote drivers.
 


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Ttitles says it all. With the weirdness of the latest fsd I have been wondering if their is a remote driver in the loop. How would we know? Does tesla have to disclose this?
You probably should research some simple math before posting something like this.

Tesla's 8 to 9 million cars have roughly 1.1 million active FSD subscriptions.

Tesla has roughly 125,000 employees. Let's be generous and say that 26,000 are in software development (including Tesla energy, Optimus, and FSD), with the rest working in direct manufacturing and assembly processes. Now lets say that 11,000 of those 26,000 software developers are fully focused on FSD.

Each of these 11,000 employees remote operating into a car's FSD full time without doing code, meetings, scrum, iterative testing, agile processes, or anything else, would still have 100 FSD enabled cars each to remote into or manage. Do you realize how unrealistic and preposterous that is? There is no way that Tesla would have all of it's FSD software developers tasked with remoting into someone's activated FSD.

But even if a few software developers out of the FSD software development team did decide to 'remote into' a car's activated FSD (if there were even a Tesla software backdoor to allow it in the first place), which cars out of the 1.1 million FSD enabled cars, would they even pick? What are the odds that one would be yours?

I was replying directly to the OP but now I've noticed that the member was 'deleted' by the time I finished this post so I will just leave this here in case it helps anyone else needing to rebut some similar BS in the future...

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The amount of data streaming for this to work would be insane, even if it operated off of just one front camera, and 2 side cameras, the 5g connection(which I rarely get, and would just stop work when you go through a tunnel) would not handle it. the bandwidth isn’t the least of it, you would need 50ms ping both directions or less, and no loss, ever. And FSD works without having premium connectivity.
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