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I’d say given the skyrocketing RV sales industry and that there is an entire market segment of 1/2 ton towing 5th wheels that it’s not a 1% case. It’s actually a popular growing segment per the RVIA as a 8k lb bumper pull is a lot to manage but a 8k lb 5th wheel is dead stable thanks to where the weight is put and near complete elimination of sway. Ability to get into tight parks. And cost.
What are you talking about? Knowledgeable truck people don't buy a F-150 to tow a 5th wheel with! Ford even recommends against it in the Owner's Manual for many configurations and less than 1% of F-150's sold ever get outfitted with a 5th wheel hitch. It's a miniscule percentage, the definition of an edge case.
 

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That boat sailed when they built a 6' bed. real work trucks need bed volume, not 4 doors. We carry material and equipment, not people.

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The boat didn't sail. Most 1/2 ton trucks sold in America have 4 doors and beds 6 feet or shorter. Tesla is targeting the biggest part of the truck market.

I can see we have a lot of people that don't understand the truck market in America and what configurations sell in the highest volumes.
 

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I can't believe I read this entire thread and not one person questioned the veracity of the information someone posted outside the delivery center.

Specifically, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that it was posted by Tesla. I have serious doubts.
 


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I can't believe I read this entire thread and not one person questioned the veracity of the information someone posted outside the delivery center.

Specifically, I haven't seen a shred of evidence that it was posted by Tesla. I have serious doubts.
What you talkin about Willis. Look at post 23
 

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1/2 ton fleet doesn’t not equate to towing

they’re largely used as people-movers (can fit a crew of 5 comfortably), with cargo and light duty utility trailers
Good point. Was more in response to truck stuff. Hauling, towing, etc. not just a pretty commuter in the driveway.
 

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I didn't see anyone commenting on the composite bed. In the CT pics I figured it was SS covered with a plastic bed liner. Does anyone know about composite beds? How durable are they? I would assume they are cheaper and lighter than SS.
 

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What are you talking about? Knowledgeable truck people don't buy a F-150 to tow a 5th wheel with! Ford even recommends against it in the Owner's Manual for many configurations and less than 1% of F-150's sold ever get outfitted with a 5th wheel hitch. It's a miniscule percentage, the definition of an edge case.
Incorrect. It’s in the towing guide and there’s an entire market for it. It’s actually a smarter choice for people that want trailers in the 7-10k lb range to tow 5th wheel vs bumper. If you’re gonna max out a truck, do it with a 5th wheel. Much safer towing.

look at the Durango 150, Cougar 150, Reflection 150, etc lines. If you’re gonna tow big, the 5th wheel is safer. They make them down to 23’ and less than 1200 lbs of pin weight. And 1/2 tons aren’t what they used to be. It blurs into 3/4 ton territory in a lot of configs. 3,300 lbs of payload? My 3.5 ICE had 1,938 lbs of payload. It was quite fine towing the goose. I still move trailers around the property and stuff with the lightning.

Been to an RV park in the last few years? Or a race track? Or a horse show with gooseneck horse trailers? It’s a great alternative to bumper pulling and quite maneuverable.

That addressable market is over 100k units a year between 5r, goose horse trailers and dumps trailers. F150 tow capacity is higher in that config.
 

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What are you talking about? Knowledgeable truck people don't buy a F-150 to tow a 5th wheel with! Ford even recommends against it in the Owner's Manual for many configurations and less than 1% of F-150's sold ever get outfitted with a 5th wheel hitch. It's a miniscule percentage, the definition of an edge case.
I’ll qualify this up front to try and stop people from getting angry and replying without reading what I’m writing. Please note the words “Nationwide” and “Averge”

Nationwide, the average consumer truck purchase is not a truck purchase. It’s a style choice. People buy because they like the look of a truck. They like the image of a truck. Just as those who buy sports cars generally don’t take them to the track. Most sports car drivers have never taken a single “advanced driving” class, much less earned a racing license of some level. Look at the same thing for Jeeps. How many Jeeps never see the off-road, much less rock crawl or drive in Baja? The fat part of the bell curve is a highway commuter. My neighbor has a Jeep that is as custom as they get. Every toy or accessory you could want or imagine. It has NEVER driven on an unpaved road, much less done “off roading”. But he likes the look. Good for him, he is happy. The fat part of the bell curve in the full size truck market is not the F350 5th wheel car transport market, or horse trailering, or 50’ boat towing, or 14k# backhoe towing. The fat part of the curve is comprised of people that like the look, and people that do light “truck” things (see the photo).

The CT isn’t designed to compete with the F350/3500 trucks. I don’t see why people are saying “I guess I’m going to have to keep my F650!” Well, duh! And when the new $26,000 model comes out, it won’t replace your F650 or 350 then either! Why? It wasn’t supposed to!
Tesla Cybertruck Confirmed: 11,000 lbs tow rating / 2,500 lbs payload capacity (official specs)! + Shatter-resistant glass IMG_3082
 


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If I am correct (?) it was going to be 3mm thick hardened stainless steel. Once they gave up on the exoskeleton idea, did they stay with the 3 mm stainless steel or use a thinner gauge?
maybe one of the engineers from the forum can give us an estimated guess how heavy a CB will be with a 3 mm steel frame, 3 engines and 135 kw battery… i think it is going to be ridiculously heavy to keep that gauge…
 

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Nationwide, the average consumer truck purchase is not a truck purchase. It’s a style choice. People buy because they like the look of a truck. They like the image of a truck. Just as those who buy sports cars generally don’t take them to the track. Most sports car drivers have never taken a single “advanced driving” class, much less earned a racing license of some level. Look at the same thing for Jeeps. How many Jeeps never see the off-road, much less rock crawl or drive in Baja? The fat part of the bell curve is a highway commuter. My neighbor has a Jeep that is as custom as they get. Every toy or accessory you could want or imagine. It has NEVER driven on an unpaved road, much less done “off roading”. But he likes the look.
I disagree with this characterization of 1/2 ton truck people reducing down to buying for the look, like jeeps


Super crew 1/2 tons, the vast majority of the retail market, are like any full sized SUV, but with a rear cargo hold that is open air, more “2nd row” room, and - if it’s useful - better hauling/payload

Do people buy full-sized SUVs “for the look”?
 

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I am not into “pulling things” but from my memory you are allowed to put on the tongue max 1/7th of the trailler; substracting that from 2500 lb max payload, substracting an engine ~ 250 lb (presuming a 2 engine truck), 2 passangers 200 lb each, there will be another 300 lb left for gear. From my experience with advertising in US, for a better understanding of the final product, you have to cut in half all the figures, so i think it is safe to say that the CB will be able to comfortable pull a trailler ~5500 lb with a range of 250 miles.
 
 





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